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Well - once upon a time they WAS amazing. But later they become CodeGear and later their R&D division is moved to Romania. Products become unstable and unrelia

Well - once upon a time they WAS amazing. But later they become CodeGear and later their R&D division is moved to Romania. Products become unstable and unreliable.

FpUser 5y ago
They had flops, meh versions / releases and good ones stability wise. Just as any other major IDE (or product for that matter). I own Delphi and still nothing beats it productivity wise for desktop applications. I successfully used Lazarus as well to develop Raspberry Pi based GUI software that controls various electronic gizmos(debugging on Pi was unstable but I've managed). For products that do not have GUI (or using browser for front end) I stick to C++. Embarcadero's pricing / marketing though does suck big time. Well, the only product that comes close to Delphi for GUI development is QT and their licensing and pricing sucks even more.
- gattilorenz 5y ago
  Are they still extending the language? I remember that working with strings was somewhat frustrating, for example RegExes were not a thing without external libraries...
  - FpUser 5y ago
    >"Are they still extending the language" Yes they are. I do find it strange though to base language acceptance criteria on regex when there are tons of libs. But yes Delphi has its own as well
  - bmn__ 5y ago
    > Are they still extending the language? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22328219 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22328219
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  I wonder if The Qt Company is looking at them for inspiration the past couple of years...
- jcelerier 5y ago
  > their licensing and pricing sucks even more. Does Delphi even have a LGPL option ? Because with Qt's LGPL you can use it in a lot of proprietary systems without having to pay for a license
  - FpUser 5y ago
    I've already said elsewhere that having read their licensing terms and limits on what parts and how it can be used I would not touch QT with the wooden pole. Not interested in discussing those either. Others might disagree but hey each of us makes their own choices. I heard Delphi has free version. I did not go into detail as I own commercial version and keep it up to date. But from what I understand you can use their community edition for free as long as you do not make more than $5000 per year.
    - jcelerier 5y ago
      > I've already said elsewhere that having read their licensing terms and limits on what parts and how it can be used I would not touch QT with the wooden pole. the OSS licensing terms are the LGPL or GPL. - https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 - https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 - https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 - https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 they can add whatever separate licensing scheme they want in addition to that but if a repo has LICENSE.LGPLv3 in it, you can use it under LGPL like every other OSS project (and those two repos cover by far most of Qt, you can pretty much build an entire OS userspace out of them).
  - Kliment 5y ago
    Delphi does not have an LGPL option. Lazarus, however, does.
- shp0ngle 5y ago
  > the only product that comes close to Delphi for GUI development is QT Wait isn't QT free?
  - easytiger 5y ago
    Dual licensed
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- hvis 5y ago
  > I own Delphi Do you?
  - FpUser 5y ago
    Well, the license is perpetual and I maintain VMs with it installed so for all intents and purposes it is no different. Way better than paying monthly fee.

Well - once upon a time they WAS amazing. But later they become CodeGear and later their R&D division is moved to Romania. Products become unstable and unreliable.

FpUser 5y ago

They had flops, meh versions / releases and good ones stability wise. Just as any other major IDE (or product for that matter). I own Delphi and still nothing beats it productivity wise for desktop applications. I successfully used Lazarus as well to develop Raspberry Pi based GUI software that controls various electronic gizmos(debugging on Pi was unstable but I've managed). For products that do not have GUI (or using browser for front end) I stick to C++. Embarcadero's pricing / marketing though does suck big time. Well, the only product that comes close to Delphi for GUI development is QT and their licensing and pricing sucks even more.

gattilorenz 5y ago
Are they still extending the language? I remember that working with strings was somewhat frustrating, for example RegExes were not a thing without external libraries...
- FpUser 5y ago
  >"Are they still extending the language" Yes they are. I do find it strange though to base language acceptance criteria on regex when there are tons of libs. But yes Delphi has its own as well
- bmn__ 5y ago
  > Are they still extending the language? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22328219 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22328219
stjohnswarts 5y ago
I wonder if The Qt Company is looking at them for inspiration the past couple of years...
jcelerier 5y ago
> their licensing and pricing sucks even more. Does Delphi even have a LGPL option ? Because with Qt's LGPL you can use it in a lot of proprietary systems without having to pay for a license
- FpUser 5y ago
  I've already said elsewhere that having read their licensing terms and limits on what parts and how it can be used I would not touch QT with the wooden pole. Not interested in discussing those either. Others might disagree but hey each of us makes their own choices. I heard Delphi has free version. I did not go into detail as I own commercial version and keep it up to date. But from what I understand you can use their community edition for free as long as you do not make more than $5000 per year.
  - jcelerier 5y ago
    > I've already said elsewhere that having read their licensing terms and limits on what parts and how it can be used I would not touch QT with the wooden pole. the OSS licensing terms are the LGPL or GPL. - https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 - https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 https://github.com/qt/qtbase/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 - https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.GPL3 - https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 https://github.com/qt/qtdeclarative/blob/dev/LICENSE.LGPLv3 they can add whatever separate licensing scheme they want in addition to that but if a repo has LICENSE.LGPLv3 in it, you can use it under LGPL like every other OSS project (and those two repos cover by far most of Qt, you can pretty much build an entire OS userspace out of them).
- Kliment 5y ago
  Delphi does not have an LGPL option. Lazarus, however, does.
shp0ngle 5y ago
> the only product that comes close to Delphi for GUI development is QT Wait isn't QT free?
- easytiger 5y ago
  Dual licensed
deleted 5y ago
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hvis 5y ago
> I own Delphi Do you?
- FpUser 5y ago
  Well, the license is perpetual and I maintain VMs with it installed so for all intents and purposes it is no different. Way better than paying monthly fee.