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To anyone who enjoyed Civ4 especially, I would strongly recommend Old World, a classical antiquity period game that in many ways feels like a sequel to Civ4, an

To anyone who enjoyed Civ4 especially, I would strongly recommend Old World, a classical antiquity period game that in many ways feels like a sequel to Civ4, and does a far better job with 1UPT than Civ5 or Civ6 did. Old World is designed by Soren Johnson, and multiple people on the team are straight from Civ4 days. (Disclaimer: I'm one of the game's developers)

vanderZwan 5y ago
Looks interesting! Also, I like how the RPS review[1] ends with "it actually doesn't have a strong one-more-turn factor, and maybe that's a good thing", because that is actually what has been keeping me away from these games for years now [0] https://mohawkgames.com/oldworld/ https://mohawkgames.com/oldworld/ [1] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/old-world-is-almost-the-perfect-blend-of-civilization-and-crusader-kings-3 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/old-world-is-almost-the-per...
- ACS_Solver 5y ago
  I personally think Old World does have the "one more turn" effect at its best, as in the game is interesting and you always want to see what will happen the next turn. But it's less of a time sink than Civ. Just as Old World focuses on a specific era of history, it also shortens the game length - the max is 200 turns, but you will often find the games last in the 100-120 turn range. And then there's a "double victory" condition that gives you a victory once you're so far ahead that the outcome is decided.
  - vanderZwan 5y ago
    Oh don't get me wrong, that sounds great, but for me, the "one more turn" effect is practically equivalent with "compulsively playing and being a slave to the gameplay loop even when I genuinely want to go to bed". It's a real, serious addiction risk, and I almost exclusively have it with 4x games (some RPGs also, especially if they're Baldur's Gate style isometric ones). So when the review says "it's a fun game but you kind of spontaneously take a break after an hour or two", that is a relief for me!
rufus_foreman 5y ago
The product page says it is Windows/Mac, is there any way to play it on Linux?
- ACS_Solver 5y ago
  Not officially right now (the game's sold on Epic, which has no Linux support) but the game works perfectly with Proton, it's easiest to just run it with Lutris or the Heroic Launcher. I'm the Linux nerd on the team and try to keep an eye out on Linux-specific issues, and maintain a native Linux build as well, which isn't too hard because the game is built on Unity anyway, it has good cross-platform support.
29athrowaway 5y ago
My favorite part in Civ is when you transition to gunpowder/railroads/factories, and when you can explore the high seas. Unfortunately Old World has only antiquity and classical eras.

vanderZwan 5y ago

Looks interesting! Also, I like how the RPS review[1] ends with "it actually doesn't have a strong one-more-turn factor, and maybe that's a good thing", because that is actually what has been keeping me away from these games for years now [0] https://mohawkgames.com/oldworld/ https://mohawkgames.com/oldworld/ [1] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/old-world-is-almost-the-perfect-blend-of-civilization-and-crusader-kings-3 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/old-world-is-almost-the-per...

ACS_Solver 5y ago
I personally think Old World does have the "one more turn" effect at its best, as in the game is interesting and you always want to see what will happen the next turn. But it's less of a time sink than Civ. Just as Old World focuses on a specific era of history, it also shortens the game length - the max is 200 turns, but you will often find the games last in the 100-120 turn range. And then there's a "double victory" condition that gives you a victory once you're so far ahead that the outcome is decided.
- vanderZwan 5y ago
  Oh don't get me wrong, that sounds great, but for me, the "one more turn" effect is practically equivalent with "compulsively playing and being a slave to the gameplay loop even when I genuinely want to go to bed". It's a real, serious addiction risk, and I almost exclusively have it with 4x games (some RPGs also, especially if they're Baldur's Gate style isometric ones). So when the review says "it's a fun game but you kind of spontaneously take a break after an hour or two", that is a relief for me!

rufus_foreman 5y ago

The product page says it is Windows/Mac, is there any way to play it on Linux?

ACS_Solver 5y ago
Not officially right now (the game's sold on Epic, which has no Linux support) but the game works perfectly with Proton, it's easiest to just run it with Lutris or the Heroic Launcher. I'm the Linux nerd on the team and try to keep an eye out on Linux-specific issues, and maintain a native Linux build as well, which isn't too hard because the game is built on Unity anyway, it has good cross-platform support.

29athrowaway 5y ago

My favorite part in Civ is when you transition to gunpowder/railroads/factories, and when you can explore the high seas. Unfortunately Old World has only antiquity and classical eras.