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Pharmacists can refuse to fill prescriptions they believe will harm the patient. The law does not restrict it to the narrow circumstances you have listed. “You

Pharmacists can refuse to fill prescriptions they believe will harm the patient. The law does not restrict it to the narrow circumstances you have listed. “You are giving a deworming medicine for Covid as an off label use. No, I believe that this will harm the patient” is 100% within their legal right. My state explicitly states that every pharmacist should consider whether an act is “consistent with the licensee or registrant’s education, training or practice experience” even if it is not expressly forbidden by the bylaws. This is much more expansive than you’re implying. Legally in my state they must refuse to fill prescriptions they believe were not created by a proper doctor patient relationship, which includes a lot of these Ivermectin phone doctors. But that’s a slightly different issue.

cableshaft 5y ago
I'm not going to go down the Ivermectin research hole as I've mostly been avoiding it myself. But Ivermectin is not just a "dewormer" as the media has been running with to sensationalize things and try to throw shade at Joe Rogan for taking, and is known to have antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, and is known to be safe in proper doses because it's been prescribed to humans for quite some time. Dr. John Campbell is a highly respected doctor that, since the beginning of this pandemic, has been going over medical studies and data and making them understandable to the general public (I do watch a good handful of his videos, but I've been skipping the Ivermectin ones up until tonight). The very first video[1] of him going over Ivermectin has a peer-reviewed meta-study that gives moderate-certainty level evidence that when clinicians have given Ivermectin to patients it's resulted in a 62% reduced risk of death compared to not taking it. And honestly that surprised me, up until I watched that tonight I was certain he was going to say it may have had a very mild positive effect and that's all. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7am9kjMrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7am9kjMrk I also know my friend highly respects this guy and watches his videos a lot as well. Probably why he was seeking the prescription in the first place, was after seeing the information from these studies, instead of just "well the FDA hasn't approved it therefore it's poison". Again I'm not going to dig deeper than that right now, I've already spent most of my limited free time this evening doing this instead of other productive things. But yeah, sure looks like a pharmacist could potentially be doing harm by preventing these prescriptions from fulfilling. I don't even care about this drug specifically (I've been actively avoiding reading up on it and just threw it in with Hydroxychloroquine as a non-drug up until now). It just bothered me to learn that pharmacists were refusing to fill a prescribed drug. And after listening to my friend provide his reasoning for wanting to take it in small doses, I figured he had researched this a lot more than I had up to this point and was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
- ashtonkem 5y ago
  Sigh There are severe issues with the Ivermectin studies that have shown a positive effect. One of them is believed to be an outright piece of fraud. This was literally discussed in the article this thread is about. If you're just going to ignore the article posted and "do your own research", then stop wasting our time here.
  - cableshaft 5y ago
    I mentioned the previous comment I am not well researched in this. I didn't even make the connection that the video is referring to the same study that this thread was talking about. It doesn't matter, I don't care about Ivermectin or what you or anyone think about it, good or bad. I'm not planning to take it and never was. My point was if something (ANYTHING) gets prescribed by a doctor, pharmacists should generally fill it barring those other reasons I mentioned above. I made my point, you made yours. Have a good day.

cableshaft 5y ago

I'm not going to go down the Ivermectin research hole as I've mostly been avoiding it myself. But Ivermectin is not just a "dewormer" as the media has been running with to sensationalize things and try to throw shade at Joe Rogan for taking, and is known to have antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, and is known to be safe in proper doses because it's been prescribed to humans for quite some time. Dr. John Campbell is a highly respected doctor that, since the beginning of this pandemic, has been going over medical studies and data and making them understandable to the general public (I do watch a good handful of his videos, but I've been skipping the Ivermectin ones up until tonight). The very first video[1] of him going over Ivermectin has a peer-reviewed meta-study that gives moderate-certainty level evidence that when clinicians have given Ivermectin to patients it's resulted in a 62% reduced risk of death compared to not taking it. And honestly that surprised me, up until I watched that tonight I was certain he was going to say it may have had a very mild positive effect and that's all. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7am9kjMrk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j7am9kjMrk I also know my friend highly respects this guy and watches his videos a lot as well. Probably why he was seeking the prescription in the first place, was after seeing the information from these studies, instead of just "well the FDA hasn't approved it therefore it's poison". Again I'm not going to dig deeper than that right now, I've already spent most of my limited free time this evening doing this instead of other productive things. But yeah, sure looks like a pharmacist could potentially be doing harm by preventing these prescriptions from fulfilling. I don't even care about this drug specifically (I've been actively avoiding reading up on it and just threw it in with Hydroxychloroquine as a non-drug up until now). It just bothered me to learn that pharmacists were refusing to fill a prescribed drug. And after listening to my friend provide his reasoning for wanting to take it in small doses, I figured he had researched this a lot more than I had up to this point and was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

ashtonkem 5y ago
Sigh There are severe issues with the Ivermectin studies that have shown a positive effect. One of them is believed to be an outright piece of fraud. This was literally discussed in the article this thread is about. If you're just going to ignore the article posted and "do your own research", then stop wasting our time here.
- cableshaft 5y ago
  I mentioned the previous comment I am not well researched in this. I didn't even make the connection that the video is referring to the same study that this thread was talking about. It doesn't matter, I don't care about Ivermectin or what you or anyone think about it, good or bad. I'm not planning to take it and never was. My point was if something (ANYTHING) gets prescribed by a doctor, pharmacists should generally fill it barring those other reasons I mentioned above. I made my point, you made yours. Have a good day.