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There is no good faith argument against the vaccine. Just take it.

brigandish 5y ago
> First: the opinion which it is attempted to suppress by authority may possibly be true. Those who desire to suppress it, of course deny its truth; but they are not infallible. They have no authority to decide the question for all mankind, and exclude every other person from the means of judging. To refuse a hearing to an opinion, because they are sure that it is false, is to assume that their certainty is the same thing as absolute certainty. All silencing of discussion is an assumption of infallibility. Its condemnation may be allowed to rest on this common argument, not the worse for being common. J. S. Mill wrote the rebuttal to your argument 160+ years ago. He wasn't using it as an anti-vaxx argument either, so it might be time to stop the moralising and simply try to make a persuasive case. I'd wager it's easier without the moralising anyway.
NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
>There is no good faith argument against the vaccine. Factually false. 1. It isn't a vaccine. It's a chemical signal to make your body make things. 2. It doesn't have the efficacy against the plethora of variants that all coronaviruses like the cold continuously create. You can still get COVID-19 after being "fully vaccinated". Human beings lack the technology to vaccinate against coronaviruses, including COVID and the cold. 3. It has caused blood clots. And the proteins created cluster in reproductive organs. 4. There are no long term studies of its effects. 5. If it kills your spouse, you can't sue the manufacturer. Stop spreading misinformation about this pseudo-vaccine.
- brigandish 5y ago
  It seems that the second half of (3), and (5) are myths. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...
  - NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
    Your link says nothing about 5.
throwawaythekey 5y ago
The WHO would prefer you not to take the vaccine if you are at low risk. While not a personal medical argument it's still in good faith. I am being cheeky by extending their booster logic to the whole vaccine - the WHO are probably thinking it but too ashamed to say it out loud. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-people-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-... There are multiple vaccines too! The Australian regulator recommends against some vaccines for the young and up until recently they were the only ones available. https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/learn-about-covid-19-vaccines/about-the-vaxzevria-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-... I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons - God forbid you might even have a religious objection to vaccines.

> First: the opinion which it is attempted to suppress by authority may possibly be true. Those who desire to suppress it, of course deny its truth; but they are not infallible. They have no authority to decide the question for all mankind, and exclude every other person from the means of judging. To refuse a hearing to an opinion, because they are sure that it is false, is to assume that their certainty is the same thing as absolute certainty. All silencing of discussion is an assumption of infallibility. Its condemnation may be allowed to rest on this common argument, not the worse for being common. J. S. Mill wrote the rebuttal to your argument 160+ years ago. He wasn't using it as an anti-vaxx argument either, so it might be time to stop the moralising and simply try to make a persuasive case. I'd wager it's easier without the moralising anyway.

NaturalPhallacy 5y ago

>There is no good faith argument against the vaccine. Factually false. 1. It isn't a vaccine. It's a chemical signal to make your body make things. 2. It doesn't have the efficacy against the plethora of variants that all coronaviruses like the cold continuously create. You can still get COVID-19 after being "fully vaccinated". Human beings lack the technology to vaccinate against coronaviruses, including COVID and the cold. 3. It has caused blood clots. And the proteins created cluster in reproductive organs. 4. There are no long term studies of its effects. 5. If it kills your spouse, you can't sue the manufacturer. Stop spreading misinformation about this pseudo-vaccine.

brigandish 5y ago
It seems that the second half of (3), and (5) are myths. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...
- NaturalPhallacy 5y ago
  Your link says nothing about 5.

throwawaythekey 5y ago

The WHO would prefer you not to take the vaccine if you are at low risk. While not a personal medical argument it's still in good faith. I am being cheeky by extending their booster logic to the whole vaccine - the WHO are probably thinking it but too ashamed to say it out loud. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-people-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-... There are multiple vaccines too! The Australian regulator recommends against some vaccines for the young and up until recently they were the only ones available. https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/learn-about-covid-19-vaccines/about-the-vaxzevria-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-... I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons - God forbid you might even have a religious objection to vaccines.