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Nyxt 2.2.0

152 points by pedrodelfino 5y ago

francislavoie 5y ago
Nuxt, Next, Nyxt. I can't keep up.
avindroth 5y ago
Documentation improved a lot in the recent versions. It’s still a WIP, but I had a ton of fun enjoying emacs-like philosophy natively supported in a browser.
yewenjie 5y ago
I really want more firepower and ergonomics out of my browser. Yet I have not found a better solution than Firefox + Tridactyl + a bunch of other extensions. Two strong contenders are Nyxt and Vieb right now but neither checks all the boxes below. I want - complete Vi like keybindings - almost everything should be doable via the keyboard - window management - why can I just not split a browser window into two? - fast and powerful engine - I don't want to use two browsers - Webextensions support
- Y_Y 5y ago
  It's a bit of a mess, but have you tried using emacs-webkit[0]? You can have vi-style keybindings via evil-collection, the window management is pretty good, the browser engine is pretty standard. I've used it with spacemacs, and it's overall a decent experience. It's not quite Gecko though, and I don't think WebExtensions work yet. Also the single-threadedness of emacs itself can be a bother (of course the browser component is separate).
  - e3bc54b2 5y ago
    link to emacs-webkit: https://github.com/akirakyle/emacs-webkit https://github.com/akirakyle/emacs-webkit
- slightwinder 5y ago
  This always fails with Webextensions support. The simpler solutions just take an existing webengine-component from gtk or Qt and put a browser around it, but this fails with more complex features which are naturally not part of the webengine. I'm curious why nobody takes directly chromium or firefox and just integrates trydactyl to get first-class-support. The major-problem with alternative keybindings is the context they run with. Extensions run inside the page-scope, and thus are only available after the page loaded. Integrating them at app-scope (which mozilla promised to deliver around 4 years ago already), would basically solve most problems instantly.
  - jmercouris 5y ago
    Yes, it is incredibly hard to build an extension system. Why does nobody build on top of Firefox and Chromium? Probably because tracking upstream changes will be incredibly difficult. I imagine as soon as FF releases a month worth of patches, trying to integrate them and sift through them would take thousands of hours.
- jmercouris 5y ago
  Webextensions support is /very/ close, we even have a pull request for basic support: https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 now that we've figured out the framework/setup we just have to implement the APIs.
seepel 5y ago
I’m pretty psyched to see the progress being made on this project, keep up the good work!
xelxebar 5y ago
I use Nyxt as my daily browser for the most part. After experimenting with lots of alternative browsers (uzbl, qutebrowser, etc.), I find Nyxt to excell in the following areas: - Configuration system is highly organized as well as flexible; - Feels like a first-class browser in almost all situations; - Fast startup and responsive UI. That said, I've encountered some issues, mostly in connection with work: - CJK input is kind of janky; - Infrequent crashes on some JS-heavy sites; - Cannot log in to Azure Data Factory for some reason. All in all, I would highly recommend giving Nyxt a serious spin. The devs are crazy active and helpful. I am pretty confident that the above issues will eventually get ironed out.
- k1e 5y ago
  I wonder why does it crash. It uses WebKit as renderer. Can you give an example of a page on which it does crash?
  - xelxebar 5y ago
    Unfortunately, I have been just ignoring these lately, with the intention of troubleshooting later. Now seems like a good time to at least start taking notes of problematic pages. Cheers.
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  No binary distribution available for about 98% of the world's desktop computers and they only linux distro they make packages for that has anything approaching significant desktop share is Arch. It's like they're purposefully being snobs making it only available for the most obscure operating system users, or something.
  - jmercouris 5y ago
    We have a deb installer. We are trying to make it as available as possible, but we don't have the computers necessary to test and distribute on those platforms. Sorry about that!
xeyownt 5y ago
Wow, looks great. Might replace my Firefox with aging pentadactyl extension. Small typo on front page: "that allow you to quickly analayze -> analyze"
- d3nj4l 5y ago
  You can use tridactyl, a well-maintained and active project for vim bindings in firefox: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/ https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/
manigandham 5y ago
Neat product, but the lack of extensions is my main problem. I've been using Vimium with Chrome for keyboard navigation and it works well without losing all of the benefits of Chrome. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/dbepggeogbaibhgnhhndojpepiihcmeb https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/dbepggeogba...
- SkyMarshal 5y ago
  Not sure why you're only mentioning a vim extension when that's exactly what Nyxt is, but better in every way. Are there other extensions you want that are missing in Nyxt?
  - manigandham 5y ago
    I want all of the features of Chrome like extensions, profiles, syncing, passwords, etc. That's why I mentioned Vimium; because it brings keyboard nav to Chrome, instead of leaving Chrome for Nyxt.
  - mateuszf 5y ago
    It would be great to have uBlock Origin, uMatrix, firefox's containers and other privacy features.
  - slightwinder 5y ago
    If have nearly 50 extensions in Firefox. Nyxt will never implement them all. That's why APIs exist, to allow people doing it for themselves.
- sigmonsays 5y ago
  I used nyxt but the lack of extensions really stopped my use of it dead in its tracks I need a password manager for instance, and its nice to have it integrated. Having bookmarks sync'd too is a requirement. Firefox containers would also be nice too since I want more control over privacy.
- jmercouris 5y ago
  Indeed, that is why we've been working really hard at it! https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 we are incredibly close.
agumonkey 5y ago
kudos on the new features
mateuszf 5y ago
Pity there is no brew package.
- mark_l_watson 5y ago
  I second this. I like Nyxt but the macOS install experience can be painful.
- jmercouris 5y ago
  Indeed, I wish there was an easier solution for macOS users, in the meantime you can try https://github.com/deddu/nyxt-docker https://github.com/deddu/nyxt-docker
fsiefken 5y ago
Would be nice if the project could support Gemini and Gopher as well
- NoGravitas 5y ago
  There are Common Lisp client libraries for Gemini and Gopher, so I imagine it would not be that difficult to add support.
openfuture 5y ago
Looks like this update solves all the issues I've been having using it as a daily driver. The input stutter was incredibly bad sometimes when you have muscle memory and had to intentionally slow down. Gonna do a guix pull!
jerrygoyal 5y ago
not available for most popular OS

152 points by pedrodelfino 5y ago

Nuxt, Next, Nyxt. I can't keep up.

Documentation improved a lot in the recent versions. It’s still a WIP, but I had a ton of fun enjoying emacs-like philosophy natively supported in a browser.

yewenjie 5y ago

I really want more firepower and ergonomics out of my browser. Yet I have not found a better solution than Firefox + Tridactyl + a bunch of other extensions. Two strong contenders are Nyxt and Vieb right now but neither checks all the boxes below. I want - complete Vi like keybindings - almost everything should be doable via the keyboard - window management - why can I just not split a browser window into two? - fast and powerful engine - I don't want to use two browsers - Webextensions support

Y_Y 5y ago
It's a bit of a mess, but have you tried using emacs-webkit[0]? You can have vi-style keybindings via evil-collection, the window management is pretty good, the browser engine is pretty standard. I've used it with spacemacs, and it's overall a decent experience. It's not quite Gecko though, and I don't think WebExtensions work yet. Also the single-threadedness of emacs itself can be a bother (of course the browser component is separate).
- e3bc54b2 5y ago
  link to emacs-webkit: https://github.com/akirakyle/emacs-webkit https://github.com/akirakyle/emacs-webkit
slightwinder 5y ago
This always fails with Webextensions support. The simpler solutions just take an existing webengine-component from gtk or Qt and put a browser around it, but this fails with more complex features which are naturally not part of the webengine. I'm curious why nobody takes directly chromium or firefox and just integrates trydactyl to get first-class-support. The major-problem with alternative keybindings is the context they run with. Extensions run inside the page-scope, and thus are only available after the page loaded. Integrating them at app-scope (which mozilla promised to deliver around 4 years ago already), would basically solve most problems instantly.
- jmercouris 5y ago
  Yes, it is incredibly hard to build an extension system. Why does nobody build on top of Firefox and Chromium? Probably because tracking upstream changes will be incredibly difficult. I imagine as soon as FF releases a month worth of patches, trying to integrate them and sift through them would take thousands of hours.
jmercouris 5y ago
Webextensions support is /very/ close, we even have a pull request for basic support: https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 now that we've figured out the framework/setup we just have to implement the APIs.

seepel 5y ago

I’m pretty psyched to see the progress being made on this project, keep up the good work!

xelxebar 5y ago

I use Nyxt as my daily browser for the most part. After experimenting with lots of alternative browsers (uzbl, qutebrowser, etc.), I find Nyxt to excell in the following areas: - Configuration system is highly organized as well as flexible; - Feels like a first-class browser in almost all situations; - Fast startup and responsive UI. That said, I've encountered some issues, mostly in connection with work: - CJK input is kind of janky; - Infrequent crashes on some JS-heavy sites; - Cannot log in to Azure Data Factory for some reason. All in all, I would highly recommend giving Nyxt a serious spin. The devs are crazy active and helpful. I am pretty confident that the above issues will eventually get ironed out.

k1e 5y ago
I wonder why does it crash. It uses WebKit as renderer. Can you give an example of a page on which it does crash?
- xelxebar 5y ago
  Unfortunately, I have been just ignoring these lately, with the intention of troubleshooting later. Now seems like a good time to at least start taking notes of problematic pages. Cheers.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
No binary distribution available for about 98% of the world's desktop computers and they only linux distro they make packages for that has anything approaching significant desktop share is Arch. It's like they're purposefully being snobs making it only available for the most obscure operating system users, or something.
- jmercouris 5y ago
  We have a deb installer. We are trying to make it as available as possible, but we don't have the computers necessary to test and distribute on those platforms. Sorry about that!

xeyownt 5y ago

Wow, looks great. Might replace my Firefox with aging pentadactyl extension. Small typo on front page: "that allow you to quickly analayze -> analyze"

d3nj4l 5y ago
You can use tridactyl, a well-maintained and active project for vim bindings in firefox: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/ https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl/

manigandham 5y ago

Neat product, but the lack of extensions is my main problem. I've been using Vimium with Chrome for keyboard navigation and it works well without losing all of the benefits of Chrome. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/dbepggeogbaibhgnhhndojpepiihcmeb https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/dbepggeogba...

SkyMarshal 5y ago
Not sure why you're only mentioning a vim extension when that's exactly what Nyxt is, but better in every way. Are there other extensions you want that are missing in Nyxt?
- manigandham 5y ago
  I want all of the features of Chrome like extensions, profiles, syncing, passwords, etc. That's why I mentioned Vimium; because it brings keyboard nav to Chrome, instead of leaving Chrome for Nyxt.
- mateuszf 5y ago
  It would be great to have uBlock Origin, uMatrix, firefox's containers and other privacy features.
- slightwinder 5y ago
  If have nearly 50 extensions in Firefox. Nyxt will never implement them all. That's why APIs exist, to allow people doing it for themselves.
sigmonsays 5y ago
I used nyxt but the lack of extensions really stopped my use of it dead in its tracks I need a password manager for instance, and its nice to have it integrated. Having bookmarks sync'd too is a requirement. Firefox containers would also be nice too since I want more control over privacy.
jmercouris 5y ago
Indeed, that is why we've been working really hard at it! https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 https://github.com/atlas-engineer/nyxt/pull/1762 we are incredibly close.

agumonkey 5y ago

kudos on the new features

mateuszf 5y ago

Pity there is no brew package.

mark_l_watson 5y ago
I second this. I like Nyxt but the macOS install experience can be painful.
jmercouris 5y ago
Indeed, I wish there was an easier solution for macOS users, in the meantime you can try https://github.com/deddu/nyxt-docker https://github.com/deddu/nyxt-docker

fsiefken 5y ago

Would be nice if the project could support Gemini and Gopher as well

NoGravitas 5y ago
There are Common Lisp client libraries for Gemini and Gopher, so I imagine it would not be that difficult to add support.

openfuture 5y ago

Looks like this update solves all the issues I've been having using it as a daily driver. The input stutter was incredibly bad sometimes when you have muscle memory and had to intentionally slow down. Gonna do a guix pull!

jerrygoyal 5y ago

not available for most popular OS