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Why not none? We certainly don't need it, so why are we obligated to eat some baseline level of meat?

meowkit 5y ago
Its extremely hard to get protein from just plants and fortified foods - cost wise and the amount of food you would have to consume vs protein rich meat. You don’t “need” any specific foods as long as you meet micro/macro/caloric/fiber nutrition requirements. Some people like the taste and preparation of meat. The problem is the amount,type and quality of that meat.
- drooby 5y ago
  I can assure you it’s very very…very.. easy to get enough protein. I have been gaining muscle while just barely caring about what plants I eat. Cheap too. I spent about the national average on food costs for the month. The modern American diet consumes about double the protein needs. For a plant based diet one only needs to invest maybe a day or two of research to figure out what foods to eat to get enough protein.
- sweetheart 5y ago
  Nah it's super easy to get enough protein just from plants. Lets say your 160 lbs, which translates to about 58 grams of protein daily [1]. Then lets take a look at some high protein plants: https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/19-high-protein-vegetables https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/19-high-pro... You can trivially hit daily protein goals with just a few cups of various beans, and thats ignoring things life tofu, seitan, leafy greens, etc. Besides, we know folks can get enough protein from plants alone, as there are many plant-based athletes and bodybuilders. 1. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-protein-do-you-need-every-day-201506188096 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-protein-do-you-...
Aloha 5y ago
No one should obligate you to eat none. That's your choice to eat none, and good for you! For the rest of us who chose to eat meat, my statement applies.
DoreenMichele 5y ago
The evidence seems to suggest we certainly do need it, just not as much as some people eat.
- sweetheart 5y ago
  Source?
  - DoreenMichele 5y ago
    There are certain nutrients -- like B vitamins -- that people have a hard time getting enough of from plants. It's not hard to get enough protein. It is hard to get enough of some other things. That's common knowledge. It isn't something I need to prove.
    - sweetheart 5y ago
      B vitamins need to be supplemented for most people, plant-based or otherwise. Almost all livestock is supplemented, too, which is how most people who meat get any B-12 at all. As for anything else, because you imply there are other vitamins that are lacking in plant-based diets, the onus to provide proof is definitely on you.

Its extremely hard to get protein from just plants and fortified foods - cost wise and the amount of food you would have to consume vs protein rich meat. You don’t “need” any specific foods as long as you meet micro/macro/caloric/fiber nutrition requirements. Some people like the taste and preparation of meat. The problem is the amount,type and quality of that meat.

drooby 5y ago
I can assure you it’s very very…very.. easy to get enough protein. I have been gaining muscle while just barely caring about what plants I eat. Cheap too. I spent about the national average on food costs for the month. The modern American diet consumes about double the protein needs. For a plant based diet one only needs to invest maybe a day or two of research to figure out what foods to eat to get enough protein.
sweetheart 5y ago
Nah it's super easy to get enough protein just from plants. Lets say your 160 lbs, which translates to about 58 grams of protein daily [1]. Then lets take a look at some high protein plants: https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/19-high-protein-vegetables https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/19-high-pro... You can trivially hit daily protein goals with just a few cups of various beans, and thats ignoring things life tofu, seitan, leafy greens, etc. Besides, we know folks can get enough protein from plants alone, as there are many plant-based athletes and bodybuilders. 1. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-protein-do-you-need-every-day-201506188096 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-protein-do-you-...

Aloha 5y ago

No one should obligate you to eat none. That's your choice to eat none, and good for you! For the rest of us who chose to eat meat, my statement applies.

DoreenMichele 5y ago

The evidence seems to suggest we certainly do need it, just not as much as some people eat.

sweetheart 5y ago
Source?
- DoreenMichele 5y ago
  There are certain nutrients -- like B vitamins -- that people have a hard time getting enough of from plants. It's not hard to get enough protein. It is hard to get enough of some other things. That's common knowledge. It isn't something I need to prove.
  - sweetheart 5y ago
    B vitamins need to be supplemented for most people, plant-based or otherwise. Almost all livestock is supplemented, too, which is how most people who meat get any B-12 at all. As for anything else, because you imply there are other vitamins that are lacking in plant-based diets, the onus to provide proof is definitely on you.