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I want honest feedback from the exit interview- it's the only way we can improve as a team you leaving, and the way you performed and conducted yourself while w

I want honest feedback from the exit interview- it's the only way we can improve as a team you leaving, and the way you performed and conducted yourself while working on the team has a far higher weighting for me than what you say to HR on the way out.

tombert 5y ago
Heh, the last exit interview I had, when asked why I'm leaving, I said "I just don't feel like the job was a good fit, after being here two years, I never really 'clicked' with anything", which I thought was diplomatic (and honest) enough. The manager I was talking to decided instead to try and psychoanalyze me, and said "well maybe you never gave it a chance to see how great this job was, and maybe this is something psychological you need to deal with", which really annoyed me, and basically led to me screaming at him two five minutes straight laying out every complaint and frustration I had in the two years I had been there, and personally saying that his management and exit interview ability was utterly incompetent (which was true, his inability to manage was part of the reason I was leaving). Consider that bridge thoroughly burned, I suppose. Point is, I learned two lessons from that experience: 1) I probably shouldn't yell at people like that, it's not a great look for me, and 2) lie your ass off during the exit interview. A lot of managers are not interested in improving conditions, they're interested in masturbating to the idea of how good of a manager they are, and will not handle criticism terribly well.
vlod 5y ago
Not saying this happening to you :) but it's too late for you or that person. Meaning that person most likely has been suggesting fixes/complaining (to you 1-1) about 'X' which you have control or 'Y' which you do not. If it's 'X' (you can control), then it's your fault for not stepping up and fixing it. Expecting someone to summarize everything they've been saying to you for a year (just read your 1-1 notes) is not cool. If it's Y, then there's nothing you can do or say, to convince the person to stay. It's mostly correct IMHO, that people leave companies because of managers and their inability to listen or write notes in their 1-1.

tombert 5y ago

Heh, the last exit interview I had, when asked why I'm leaving, I said "I just don't feel like the job was a good fit, after being here two years, I never really 'clicked' with anything", which I thought was diplomatic (and honest) enough. The manager I was talking to decided instead to try and psychoanalyze me, and said "well maybe you never gave it a chance to see how great this job was, and maybe this is something psychological you need to deal with", which really annoyed me, and basically led to me screaming at him two five minutes straight laying out every complaint and frustration I had in the two years I had been there, and personally saying that his management and exit interview ability was utterly incompetent (which was true, his inability to manage was part of the reason I was leaving). Consider that bridge thoroughly burned, I suppose. Point is, I learned two lessons from that experience: 1) I probably shouldn't yell at people like that, it's not a great look for me, and 2) lie your ass off during the exit interview. A lot of managers are not interested in improving conditions, they're interested in masturbating to the idea of how good of a manager they are, and will not handle criticism terribly well.

vlod 5y ago

Not saying this happening to you :) but it's too late for you or that person. Meaning that person most likely has been suggesting fixes/complaining (to you 1-1) about 'X' which you have control or 'Y' which you do not. If it's 'X' (you can control), then it's your fault for not stepping up and fixing it. Expecting someone to summarize everything they've been saying to you for a year (just read your 1-1 notes) is not cool. If it's Y, then there's nothing you can do or say, to convince the person to stay. It's mostly correct IMHO, that people leave companies because of managers and their inability to listen or write notes in their 1-1.