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At scale, nothing is free. They are offering this free to everyone via their browser. https://jaas.8x8.vc/#/pricing https://jaas.8x8.vc/#/pricing

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blitzar 5y ago
> They are offering this free to everyone via their browser. By they I assume you mean Brave - by this I assume you mean Jitsi, which Jitsi also offers free to everyone via any browser.
- olah_1 5y ago
  > which Jitsi also offers free to everyone via any browser. Jitsi is eating that cost. Nothing is free.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    > Jitsi is eating that cost. Nothing is free. Brave is eating that cost. Nothing is free. btw. thanks for the circular conversation. utterly pointless.
    - BrendanEich 5y ago
      No, it's not pointless. Jitsi's terms allow them to get calldata and other metadata, Brave's do not. Equating all "free" legs or free-only services is a good way to get pwned. Good luck!
      - blitzar 5y ago
        Except they do not. Good luck.
        secretj 5y ago
        Hi blitzar, I'd like to clarify a few points here. First, meet.jit.si is a free development/experimental version of the Jitsi software that powers the paid 8x8 Meet product. From our discussions with the 8x8 team this is where they pilot new and potentially unstable features over weeks or months before they deploy it on their paid infrastructure. Per the privacy policy here https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-privacy/ https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-privacy/, they mention: "To provide the meet.jit.si service, 8×8 processes network and usage information.." That data is of course used to improve the service before deploying to the more stable versions. Brave Talk, both free and premium, is powered by the stable/production 8x8 infrastructure, that has been vetted, usually for weeks before. Brave intends to run this as a fully reliable service that our users can count on.

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At scale, nothing is free. They are offering this free to everyone via their browser. https://jaas.8x8.vc/#/pricing https://jaas.8x8.vc/#/pricing

by runawaybottle 5y ago

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blitzar 5y ago
> They are offering this free to everyone via their browser. By they I assume you mean Brave - by this I assume you mean Jitsi, which Jitsi also offers free to everyone via any browser.
- olah_1 5y ago
  > which Jitsi also offers free to everyone via any browser. Jitsi is eating that cost. Nothing is free.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    > Jitsi is eating that cost. Nothing is free. Brave is eating that cost. Nothing is free. btw. thanks for the circular conversation. utterly pointless.
    - BrendanEich 5y ago
      No, it's not pointless. Jitsi's terms allow them to get calldata and other metadata, Brave's do not. Equating all "free" legs or free-only services is a good way to get pwned. Good luck!
      - blitzar 5y ago
        Except they do not. Good luck.
        secretj 5y ago
        Hi blitzar, I'd like to clarify a few points here. First, meet.jit.si is a free development/experimental version of the Jitsi software that powers the paid 8x8 Meet product. From our discussions with the 8x8 team this is where they pilot new and potentially unstable features over weeks or months before they deploy it on their paid infrastructure. Per the privacy policy here https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-privacy/ https://jitsi.org/meet-jit-si-privacy/, they mention: "To provide the meet.jit.si service, 8×8 processes network and usage information.." That data is of course used to improve the service before deploying to the more stable versions. Brave Talk, both free and premium, is powered by the stable/production 8x8 infrastructure, that has been vetted, usually for weeks before. Brave intends to run this as a fully reliable service that our users can count on.