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Are there any good non-Chinese smartphone besides Samsung? Preferably someone who delivers a stock android?

by tasubotadas 5y ago

fortuna86 5y ago
New Pixel ?
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tmoravec 5y ago
iPhone?
- mrweasel 5y ago
  Depending on your definition that’s also a Chinese phone. You might be able to get one build in India, but that require a lot of effort. The problem is that you’re more or less screwed if you trust neither China nor Google. Generally speaking the iPhone is your best option, but partly due to a lack of options.
karolist 5y ago
Just buy Pixel phones, the pure Android experience and day 1 updates are worth it. The new Pixel 6 will use LTS kernel and custom SoC, rumored to have updates for 5 years instead of what was a standard of 3.
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HanaShiratori 5y ago
Pixel with GrapheneOS
- vvatermelone 5y ago
  And if GrapheneOS is too hardcore for you, CalyxOS
fabianhjr 5y ago
If you care about privacy one of the few options is a Google Pixel with CalyxOS and no Google Services.
fsflover 5y ago
Not Android, but made in the USA: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa (and can run Waydroid).
- Dah00n 5y ago
  Made in the US is not a good thing as they spy even more than China. A good phone is open source and made outside China and Five eyes.
hkmaxpro 5y ago
Pixel 5a. Made in Vietnam by the Taiwanese company Compal Electronics https://tw.appledaily.com/property/20210819/4W5C3MGDDJEILMIYM5VHI4FOSM/ https://tw.appledaily.com/property/20210819/4W5C3MGDDJEILMIY... Not Pixel 6 though. Still made in China https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/COVID-slows-Apple-and-Google-production-shift-away-from-China https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/COVID-slows-Appl...
abawany 5y ago
Consider the Gigaset GS4 or one of their older devices. The GS4 is not currently rooted afaik but some of their older devices (GS290?) are supported by (edit)e.foundation [1] and etc. As an additional benefit, they are made in Germany (though the origin of the parts is probably not exclusively German I guess.) [1] https://doc.e.foundation/devices https://doc.e.foundation/devices

Are there any good non-Chinese smartphone besides Samsung? Preferably someone who delivers a stock android?

fortuna86 5y ago

New Pixel ?

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tmoravec 5y ago

iPhone?

mrweasel 5y ago
Depending on your definition that’s also a Chinese phone. You might be able to get one build in India, but that require a lot of effort. The problem is that you’re more or less screwed if you trust neither China nor Google. Generally speaking the iPhone is your best option, but partly due to a lack of options.

karolist 5y ago

Just buy Pixel phones, the pure Android experience and day 1 updates are worth it. The new Pixel 6 will use LTS kernel and custom SoC, rumored to have updates for 5 years instead of what was a standard of 3.

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HanaShiratori 5y ago

Pixel with GrapheneOS

vvatermelone 5y ago
And if GrapheneOS is too hardcore for you, CalyxOS

fabianhjr 5y ago

If you care about privacy one of the few options is a Google Pixel with CalyxOS and no Google Services.

fsflover 5y ago

Not Android, but made in the USA: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa (and can run Waydroid).

Dah00n 5y ago
Made in the US is not a good thing as they spy even more than China. A good phone is open source and made outside China and Five eyes.

hkmaxpro 5y ago

Pixel 5a. Made in Vietnam by the Taiwanese company Compal Electronics https://tw.appledaily.com/property/20210819/4W5C3MGDDJEILMIYM5VHI4FOSM/ https://tw.appledaily.com/property/20210819/4W5C3MGDDJEILMIY... Not Pixel 6 though. Still made in China https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/COVID-slows-Apple-and-Google-production-shift-away-from-China https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/COVID-slows-Appl...

abawany 5y ago

Consider the Gigaset GS4 or one of their older devices. The GS4 is not currently rooted afaik but some of their older devices (GS290?) are supported by (edit)e.foundation [1] and etc. As an additional benefit, they are made in Germany (though the origin of the parts is probably not exclusively German I guess.) [1] https://doc.e.foundation/devices https://doc.e.foundation/devices