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Yeah, because nothing says "recognize the current scientific understanding" like dismissing hundreds of studies because of a couple bunk meta-analysis. Also, no

Yeah, because nothing says "recognize the current scientific understanding" like dismissing hundreds of studies because of a couple bunk meta-analysis. Also, nothing says "recognize the current scientific understanding" like injecting an untested medicine into your veins to avoid what amounts to the common cold for younger people; while ignoring the fact that it does not help prevent the spread, and according to the latest study on this from Israel (the highest vaccine rate in the world), actually enhances the spread, so if the argument is "what about the old people that you're going to infect", then I guess you've answered that question already. It pays nothing to pretend that you are smarter than other people if you're not willing to follow your own advice.

acdha 5y ago
You're packing enough untrue things into that comment that it's hard to believe you're acting in good faith but: * It's dismissing the studies which show effects due to errors, which leaves the studies not showing beneficial effects. Science is built on evidence and thus far it hasn't been shown that Ivermectin has a benefit for COVID. * Similarly, it's untrue to the point of being a flagrant lie to claim that the vaccines are untested when they went through full clinical trials and the high positive effects and safety rates shown in those trials have been backed up by data from many millions of people * Similarly, it's flat out wrong to claim that COVID is similar to the common cold — even if you compare it to influenza, which is far more serious, that's not true — we've seen more children die in the last couple months than we typically see in an entire flu season. * Vaccination does help reduce the spread, and that's even shown in the Israeli data — it's not 100% but if you look at the data it's very clear that vaccinated people at a significantly lower rate. Israeli comparisons are tricky because they have substantially different vaccination rates across age categories and a vaccinated 80 year old is still more at risk than someone younger, especially when those younger people are not taking precautions, which brings me to: * Israel is nowhere near having the highest vaccine rate — that's a tie between Portugal, Malta, and the U.A.E. currently — and at a paltry 62% they're not even in the top 25. That's only slightly better than the United States at 55%. * The Iraeli data does not show that vaccination increases spread: this is a lie spread by people who are comparing unlike things in the knowledge that many people will reshare those claims without checking them.
- gonational 5y ago
  For anybody else that comes across the above comment, ignore the fake news, do some reading of scientific studies (e.g., nih.gov, etc.), and you will come to the same conclusion: that everything stated in the comment above is untrue (except for the countries with the vaccination rates - I don't actually know the latest stats on that). I've been trying to do my part to help prevent the spread of misinformation that's been spread by corporations and Big Pharma, but I don't have time to dissect every fake point in a diatribe written by a random person; however, all of the claims are very easily debunked.
  - seattle_spring 5y ago
    "Neoliberal", "big pharma", "Weinstein", "c19ivermectin.com", "fake news", "Israel", "the new normal", "censorship", "George Orwell", "gene therapy". I can't tell if this is a real account, or gpt-3 generated comments seeded from a couple Breitbart and Infowars articles.

acdha 5y ago

You're packing enough untrue things into that comment that it's hard to believe you're acting in good faith but: * It's dismissing the studies which show effects due to errors, which leaves the studies not showing beneficial effects. Science is built on evidence and thus far it hasn't been shown that Ivermectin has a benefit for COVID. * Similarly, it's untrue to the point of being a flagrant lie to claim that the vaccines are untested when they went through full clinical trials and the high positive effects and safety rates shown in those trials have been backed up by data from many millions of people * Similarly, it's flat out wrong to claim that COVID is similar to the common cold — even if you compare it to influenza, which is far more serious, that's not true — we've seen more children die in the last couple months than we typically see in an entire flu season. * Vaccination does help reduce the spread, and that's even shown in the Israeli data — it's not 100% but if you look at the data it's very clear that vaccinated people at a significantly lower rate. Israeli comparisons are tricky because they have substantially different vaccination rates across age categories and a vaccinated 80 year old is still more at risk than someone younger, especially when those younger people are not taking precautions, which brings me to: * Israel is nowhere near having the highest vaccine rate — that's a tie between Portugal, Malta, and the U.A.E. currently — and at a paltry 62% they're not even in the top 25. That's only slightly better than the United States at 55%. * The Iraeli data does not show that vaccination increases spread: this is a lie spread by people who are comparing unlike things in the knowledge that many people will reshare those claims without checking them.

gonational 5y ago
For anybody else that comes across the above comment, ignore the fake news, do some reading of scientific studies (e.g., nih.gov, etc.), and you will come to the same conclusion: that everything stated in the comment above is untrue (except for the countries with the vaccination rates - I don't actually know the latest stats on that). I've been trying to do my part to help prevent the spread of misinformation that's been spread by corporations and Big Pharma, but I don't have time to dissect every fake point in a diatribe written by a random person; however, all of the claims are very easily debunked.
- seattle_spring 5y ago
  "Neoliberal", "big pharma", "Weinstein", "c19ivermectin.com", "fake news", "Israel", "the new normal", "censorship", "George Orwell", "gene therapy". I can't tell if this is a real account, or gpt-3 generated comments seeded from a couple Breitbart and Infowars articles.