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So fighting hate and lack of compassion with...hate and lack of compassion? This is fine with you? Is everyone who isn't vaccinated hateful and lacking compassi

by Jtype 5y ago

So fighting hate and lack of compassion with...hate and lack of compassion? This is fine with you? Is everyone who isn't vaccinated hateful and lacking compassion? At this stage of the pandemic it's clear that the vaccines won't lead to herd immunity. I have personally seen a significant amount of vaccinated to vaccinated spread. For some folks the dangers of the vaccine may be higher than Covid, for example an 18 year old male who already had Covid. I am personally pro vaccine. While I don't believe it will stop the spread of covid I think it will likely slow the spread. More importantly, I believe that it will provide extra protections to those who are vaccinated. Even though I don't agree with a lot of the arguments against vaccination, I don't think they should die, and I certainly won't celebrate it. It disgusts me that anyone would celebrate that. I think it's shameful.

hachari 5y ago
“So fighting hate and lack of compassion with...hate and lack of compassion? This is fine with you? Is everyone who isn't vaccinated hateful and lacking compassion?” People can only sacrifice so much for the people spitting in their faces.
- Jtype 5y ago
  So not celebrating death is a sacrifice to you?
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Yeah, and bodily autonomy or freedom and liberty is way too much.
  - 100011_100001 5y ago
    If your "freedom" can kill other people it's a problem. You are "free" to never stop on red lights, and just go, but you obey that rule for the general good. Vaccines are stopping at the red light and waiting for it to turn green. If it helps you, pretend the subreddit was a collection of people posting memes about red lights are for sheep, and then a picture of a car accident.
    - Ekaros 5y ago
      And those people who don't want freedom can easily protect themselves with no sacrifices by never leaving their homes. It's all up to them to make educated choice between safety they desire and freedom of everyone else.
      - 100011_100001 5y ago
        Every time I get in a car there is a chance someone will not stop on a red light. If 30% of people didn't stop at red lights, would you tell the drivers that follow the law to stay at home or arrest the drivers running red lights? Because as a driver I can easily protect myself with no sacrifices by never leaving my home. It's all up to me to make an educated choice between safety they desire and freedom of everyone else. Do you see how weird the argument sounds? No sacrifices is a lie. You think it's fun staying at home for a year? That it requires no sacrifice?
        Ekaros 5y ago
        Absolutely they should stay home if they don't want to take the risk. Technically I think we could ban anyone from going outside and save lot of lives in traffic and with covid. I don't see any sacrifice if one wants to stay safe. It is their freedom to not go outside house. It is not their freedom to oppress others and take away their freedom by forcing them to do anything. Specially being vaccinated.
        100011_100001 5y ago
        That is the most ridiculous rebuttal I have ever heard. Based on this ideology there should be no laws at all of any kind, speed limits, traffic lights, stop signs, theft, assault are all violating your freedom. As such, I have nothing else to discuss with you. Feel free to have the last word. </end>
100011_100001 5y ago
It's not a celebration, it's factual. The common format is screenshots of their social media anti-vax posts, followed by a loved one or family member announcing their death. That's reality. The posts themselves usually contain no commentary aside from giving it a title. Looking at the most popular posts for this week, I picked a couple of examples. https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppm601/kristen_antivaxx_mom_of_four_did_her_research/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppm601/kri... https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppq315/laura_loomer_asked_for_it_and_now_she_has_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppq315/lau... The ones that do contain commentary are perspectives of dealing with COVID patients. Some examples of that: https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pqm303/an_open_letter_to_my_patient/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pqm303/an_... https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/prhzi9/a_message_from_a_funeral_director/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/prhzi9/a_m... Finally, the reason why the subreddit is named the way it is. https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pncpqu/because_i_saw_newbies_asking_why_this_is_called/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pncpqu/bec...
- Jtype 5y ago
  The entire concept is morally reprehensible, and I think poorly of anyone who participates. I understand the relation to the "darwin awards", which is still in poor taste, but this still only exists as a way to feel vindicated and superior to people who were under- or miseducated about vaccines or the dangers of Covid. As it's just a Reddit echo chamber it doesn't exist to educate, it exists to give the visitors a feeling of superiority to the dead. It's shameful and you shouldn't feel proud of that.

by Jtype 5y ago

hachari 5y ago

“So fighting hate and lack of compassion with...hate and lack of compassion? This is fine with you? Is everyone who isn't vaccinated hateful and lacking compassion?” People can only sacrifice so much for the people spitting in their faces.

Jtype 5y ago
So not celebrating death is a sacrifice to you?
Ekaros 5y ago
Yeah, and bodily autonomy or freedom and liberty is way too much.
- 100011_100001 5y ago
  If your "freedom" can kill other people it's a problem. You are "free" to never stop on red lights, and just go, but you obey that rule for the general good. Vaccines are stopping at the red light and waiting for it to turn green. If it helps you, pretend the subreddit was a collection of people posting memes about red lights are for sheep, and then a picture of a car accident.
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    And those people who don't want freedom can easily protect themselves with no sacrifices by never leaving their homes. It's all up to them to make educated choice between safety they desire and freedom of everyone else.
    - 100011_100001 5y ago
      Every time I get in a car there is a chance someone will not stop on a red light. If 30% of people didn't stop at red lights, would you tell the drivers that follow the law to stay at home or arrest the drivers running red lights? Because as a driver I can easily protect myself with no sacrifices by never leaving my home. It's all up to me to make an educated choice between safety they desire and freedom of everyone else. Do you see how weird the argument sounds? No sacrifices is a lie. You think it's fun staying at home for a year? That it requires no sacrifice?
      - Ekaros 5y ago
        Absolutely they should stay home if they don't want to take the risk. Technically I think we could ban anyone from going outside and save lot of lives in traffic and with covid. I don't see any sacrifice if one wants to stay safe. It is their freedom to not go outside house. It is not their freedom to oppress others and take away their freedom by forcing them to do anything. Specially being vaccinated.
        100011_100001 5y ago
        That is the most ridiculous rebuttal I have ever heard. Based on this ideology there should be no laws at all of any kind, speed limits, traffic lights, stop signs, theft, assault are all violating your freedom. As such, I have nothing else to discuss with you. Feel free to have the last word. </end>

100011_100001 5y ago

It's not a celebration, it's factual. The common format is screenshots of their social media anti-vax posts, followed by a loved one or family member announcing their death. That's reality. The posts themselves usually contain no commentary aside from giving it a title. Looking at the most popular posts for this week, I picked a couple of examples. https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppm601/kristen_antivaxx_mom_of_four_did_her_research/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppm601/kri... https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppq315/laura_loomer_asked_for_it_and_now_she_has_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/ppq315/lau... The ones that do contain commentary are perspectives of dealing with COVID patients. Some examples of that: https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pqm303/an_open_letter_to_my_patient/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pqm303/an_... https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/prhzi9/a_message_from_a_funeral_director/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/prhzi9/a_m... Finally, the reason why the subreddit is named the way it is. https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pncpqu/because_i_saw_newbies_asking_why_this_is_called/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pncpqu/bec...

Jtype 5y ago
The entire concept is morally reprehensible, and I think poorly of anyone who participates. I understand the relation to the "darwin awards", which is still in poor taste, but this still only exists as a way to feel vindicated and superior to people who were under- or miseducated about vaccines or the dangers of Covid. As it's just a Reddit echo chamber it doesn't exist to educate, it exists to give the visitors a feeling of superiority to the dead. It's shameful and you shouldn't feel proud of that.