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The measurement of success in this case doesn't seem to be that he's gained new abilities, but rather the poster figured out how to gain them without Apple. Mo

by mholm 5y ago

The measurement of success in this case doesn't seem to be that he's gained new abilities, but rather the poster figured out how to gain them without Apple. Most of these seem like pyrric victories to me, as the Apple versions rose to success with all of these as competition by providing a better experience. I certainly wouldn't want to carry a mirrorless camera everywhere, nor deal with Bandcamp.

hef19898 5y ago
Depends on the mirrorless camera, doesn't it? The smaller ones are hardly bigger than larger smartphone, and they do offer way better picture quality.
- jclardy 5y ago
  Not really (on size), what mirrorless can you fit into your pocket? The smallest ones still are 3-4" thick because of the lens.
  - hef19898 5y ago
    Your trousers? No. Your coat? Definitely. Unless you go for full-format ones with bigger lenses. In which case your priorities most likely aren't carrying your camera gear in your pocket.
    - yunohn 5y ago
      I’m not wearing a coat all year long, and almost never on vacation. The latter situation is the most important one where I need a less bulky solution.
  - The_Colonel 5y ago
    Fuji X-E4 + 27mm f/2.8 at 2" thick is quite pocketable.
  - petepete 5y ago
    http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/ http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/
    - lgreiv 5y ago
      While not opting out of most of the convenience the Apple ecosystem gives me, I did buy a GRIII and carry it along everywhere I go - together with an otherwise capable iPhone. The difference in optics and sensor really does show in print or when cropping.
    - innocentoldguy 5y ago
      I have one of these and yes, I can cram it into my pocket with some effort, but it isn't very testicle friendly.
- vladvasiliu 5y ago
  They're still much bigger than an iPhone. Sure, if you walk around with some 13" tablet that doubles as a phone, the point may be moot, but a "regular" iPhone is much smaller than even compact cameras. I can stick my iPhone 7 in my jeans pocket. My Olympus Pen-F (one of the "smaller" mirrorless cameras) with a small prime lens needs a pretty big pocket only some of my larger coats have. Plus it's heavy enough to pull on said coat and make it uncomfortable. Yeah, image quality is pretty bad on the iPhone compared to the Olympus. But when I go out and about and don't want to have a bulky thing hanging around my neck / forearm or carry an extra bag, the Olympus' image quality is exactly 0. The iPhone beats that hands down, even at night. Now don't get me wrong, I love my pen-f, and it's an incredible improvement over the DSLR I used to haul around before. But iPhones are getting pretty good for my needs now.
- SigmundA 5y ago
  The best camera is the one you have with you.
  - hef19898 5y ago
    Couldn't agree more!
  - dham 5y ago
    Not really. I have so many shitty Razr and smartphone videos that I wish I had just enjoyed the moment instead of wasting time capturing something that has the quality of a gameboy camera. Now I am thankful my dad endured the pain and captured a lot of stuff on the JVC shoulder camera. At least the quality is pretty good even for 80's/90's. We don't capture events like we used to anyway. No one holds there camera up for more than a minute. So we're left with all these short videos. I like watching the really long stuff my dad shot.
- tehnub 5y ago
  Sincere question: Can mirrorless cameras match or do better than the result of the multiple exposure stuff that phones can do? (E.g. Apple’s “Deep Fusion” feature)
  - Kirby64 5y ago
    Yes, easily. Modern DSLR sensors have a higher native dynamic range, so you can get more out of a photo without using multiple exposures in the first place. Also, most DSLRs these days have some sort of multi-exposure functionality built-in. Sometimes it's as simple as 'bracketing' (so you get multiple phones you have to merge together in post), but some fancier ones offer HDR functionality in-camera, so nothing to do in post.
indymike 5y ago
> the Apple versions rose to success with all of these as competition by providing a better experience At one time, Apple clearly was a better experience. Now, with features removed and new "privacy and security" features added, I'm not sure they are a great experience. For example, my Macbook reminds me of Windows Vista, except for worse, every time there's a system update and I have to reboot to permission the camera for a web conference. I've learned to dread OSX updates because instead of adding new useful stuff, it seems like we just move things around, change out the icons and add some more intrusive "touch the fingerprint reader" authentications... plus I have to re-permission half of the apps and hardware just to do my job. Then there's the whole reboot, unlock, install, reboot, re-lock cycle. It's seriously worse than Windows Vista. Anyone remember the I'm a Mac/I'm a PC commercials?
- jrsj 5y ago
  I have never needed to reboot because of permissions, basically just had to click “allow” a few times, so this stuff doesn’t really bother me. It’s a very slight inconvenience. Big Sur performance on older hardware has been a disaster though. Even on a $2500 MBP 15” from 2017. On M1 though it’s excellent.
  - katbyte 5y ago
    Every update I need two reboot twice to get the google drive system extension to load, but that’s the only issue I’ve had like that. However big sur runs alright on my 2015 MacBook!
    - Klonoar 5y ago
      Having written system extensions (both kext and DriverKit), that seems more like an issue with the extension itself.
      - indymike 5y ago
        That may, but Apple broke a formerly working API. If Google can't figure it out, that's a signal.
tarsinge 5y ago
For Bandcamp maybe regarding playing and library, but not regarding discovery.
bryanrasmussen 5y ago
I have to travel a ways to specialty shops to buy reasonably good headphones with wires. It makes me mad every time I need to buy some new headphones for my computer.
cultofmetatron 5y ago
I carried a google pixel 3 which took excellent pictures. That said, I now carry a mirrorless camera everywhere. The pictures are WAY higher quality and I have more control over the experience and the final output. Don't get a mirrorless if thats not important to you. when I want to just take a quick selfie, I still have my phone. The iPhone is great at taking pictures but its never going to be a match for a mirrorless wihch has a enormous sized sensor compared to anything you'll get on a phone.
- shapefrog 5y ago
  > I now carry a mirrorless camera everywhere. I do not believe you. There is no way you carry a mirrorless camera everywhere or anywhere near a comparable amount of times / places as a person carries their phone.
eikenberry 5y ago
> nor deal with Bandcamp. Curious what's wrong with dealing with Bandcamp? They seem just about the best place to buy music online. Majority of the money goes to the actual artist and you have a good choice of formats.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  > Majority of the money goes to the actual artist and you have a good choice of formats. Agreed. Bandcamp does this right by offering V0 compressed MP3s, 320kbps MP3s, AIFF, FLAC, ALAC and I think even Ogg Vorbis.
- ukyrgf 5y ago
  And, for the past 18 months, they've had a day where they waive all fees so bands that can't play live anymore can stand a chance of making some money.
heavyset_go 5y ago
> I certainly wouldn't want to carry a mirrorless camera everywhere, nor deal with Bandcamp. Bandcamp recommendations and artist/album similarity ratings are top notch, and there are many clients for the platform. I personally can't use Spotify or Apple Music after taking advantage of Bandcamp. Bandcamp also only takes a 10% - 15% fee for digital purchases, and 10% of purchases for physical items, which is an incredible deal for artists compared to what they make from streaming services like Apple Music or Spotify.
jay_kyburz 5y ago
Bandcamp is great, and there is something really wrong with Apple music in Firefox on windows. Its very slow and its seems to do authentication _after_ loading the rest of the page and often fails.
- fleaaaa 5y ago
  Glad it wasn't just me. How is it that slow with gigabit connection? In fact, I really like their catalog and match algorithm but I always thought apple music being outside of its own fence feels gross.
  - schmorptron 5y ago
    The android app is good, though I can't compare it to the iOS version. On windows, itunes works okay-ish albeit slow. On Linux, the web app is the only option and it sucks way bad.

by mholm 5y ago

hef19898 5y ago

Depends on the mirrorless camera, doesn't it? The smaller ones are hardly bigger than larger smartphone, and they do offer way better picture quality.

jclardy 5y ago
Not really (on size), what mirrorless can you fit into your pocket? The smallest ones still are 3-4" thick because of the lens.
- hef19898 5y ago
  Your trousers? No. Your coat? Definitely. Unless you go for full-format ones with bigger lenses. In which case your priorities most likely aren't carrying your camera gear in your pocket.
  - yunohn 5y ago
    I’m not wearing a coat all year long, and almost never on vacation. The latter situation is the most important one where I need a less bulky solution.
- The_Colonel 5y ago
  Fuji X-E4 + 27mm f/2.8 at 2" thick is quite pocketable.
- petepete 5y ago
  http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/ http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/
  - lgreiv 5y ago
    While not opting out of most of the convenience the Apple ecosystem gives me, I did buy a GRIII and carry it along everywhere I go - together with an otherwise capable iPhone. The difference in optics and sensor really does show in print or when cropping.
  - innocentoldguy 5y ago
    I have one of these and yes, I can cram it into my pocket with some effort, but it isn't very testicle friendly.
vladvasiliu 5y ago
They're still much bigger than an iPhone. Sure, if you walk around with some 13" tablet that doubles as a phone, the point may be moot, but a "regular" iPhone is much smaller than even compact cameras. I can stick my iPhone 7 in my jeans pocket. My Olympus Pen-F (one of the "smaller" mirrorless cameras) with a small prime lens needs a pretty big pocket only some of my larger coats have. Plus it's heavy enough to pull on said coat and make it uncomfortable. Yeah, image quality is pretty bad on the iPhone compared to the Olympus. But when I go out and about and don't want to have a bulky thing hanging around my neck / forearm or carry an extra bag, the Olympus' image quality is exactly 0. The iPhone beats that hands down, even at night. Now don't get me wrong, I love my pen-f, and it's an incredible improvement over the DSLR I used to haul around before. But iPhones are getting pretty good for my needs now.
SigmundA 5y ago
The best camera is the one you have with you.
- hef19898 5y ago
  Couldn't agree more!
- dham 5y ago
  Not really. I have so many shitty Razr and smartphone videos that I wish I had just enjoyed the moment instead of wasting time capturing something that has the quality of a gameboy camera. Now I am thankful my dad endured the pain and captured a lot of stuff on the JVC shoulder camera. At least the quality is pretty good even for 80's/90's. We don't capture events like we used to anyway. No one holds there camera up for more than a minute. So we're left with all these short videos. I like watching the really long stuff my dad shot.
tehnub 5y ago
Sincere question: Can mirrorless cameras match or do better than the result of the multiple exposure stuff that phones can do? (E.g. Apple’s “Deep Fusion” feature)
- Kirby64 5y ago
  Yes, easily. Modern DSLR sensors have a higher native dynamic range, so you can get more out of a photo without using multiple exposures in the first place. Also, most DSLRs these days have some sort of multi-exposure functionality built-in. Sometimes it's as simple as 'bracketing' (so you get multiple phones you have to merge together in post), but some fancier ones offer HDR functionality in-camera, so nothing to do in post.

indymike 5y ago

> the Apple versions rose to success with all of these as competition by providing a better experience At one time, Apple clearly was a better experience. Now, with features removed and new "privacy and security" features added, I'm not sure they are a great experience. For example, my Macbook reminds me of Windows Vista, except for worse, every time there's a system update and I have to reboot to permission the camera for a web conference. I've learned to dread OSX updates because instead of adding new useful stuff, it seems like we just move things around, change out the icons and add some more intrusive "touch the fingerprint reader" authentications... plus I have to re-permission half of the apps and hardware just to do my job. Then there's the whole reboot, unlock, install, reboot, re-lock cycle. It's seriously worse than Windows Vista. Anyone remember the I'm a Mac/I'm a PC commercials?

jrsj 5y ago
I have never needed to reboot because of permissions, basically just had to click “allow” a few times, so this stuff doesn’t really bother me. It’s a very slight inconvenience. Big Sur performance on older hardware has been a disaster though. Even on a $2500 MBP 15” from 2017. On M1 though it’s excellent.
- katbyte 5y ago
  Every update I need two reboot twice to get the google drive system extension to load, but that’s the only issue I’ve had like that. However big sur runs alright on my 2015 MacBook!
  - Klonoar 5y ago
    Having written system extensions (both kext and DriverKit), that seems more like an issue with the extension itself.
    - indymike 5y ago
      That may, but Apple broke a formerly working API. If Google can't figure it out, that's a signal.

tarsinge 5y ago

For Bandcamp maybe regarding playing and library, but not regarding discovery.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago

I have to travel a ways to specialty shops to buy reasonably good headphones with wires. It makes me mad every time I need to buy some new headphones for my computer.

cultofmetatron 5y ago

I carried a google pixel 3 which took excellent pictures. That said, I now carry a mirrorless camera everywhere. The pictures are WAY higher quality and I have more control over the experience and the final output. Don't get a mirrorless if thats not important to you. when I want to just take a quick selfie, I still have my phone. The iPhone is great at taking pictures but its never going to be a match for a mirrorless wihch has a enormous sized sensor compared to anything you'll get on a phone.

shapefrog 5y ago
> I now carry a mirrorless camera everywhere. I do not believe you. There is no way you carry a mirrorless camera everywhere or anywhere near a comparable amount of times / places as a person carries their phone.

eikenberry 5y ago

> nor deal with Bandcamp. Curious what's wrong with dealing with Bandcamp? They seem just about the best place to buy music online. Majority of the money goes to the actual artist and you have a good choice of formats.

heavyset_go 5y ago
> Majority of the money goes to the actual artist and you have a good choice of formats. Agreed. Bandcamp does this right by offering V0 compressed MP3s, 320kbps MP3s, AIFF, FLAC, ALAC and I think even Ogg Vorbis.
ukyrgf 5y ago
And, for the past 18 months, they've had a day where they waive all fees so bands that can't play live anymore can stand a chance of making some money.

heavyset_go 5y ago

> I certainly wouldn't want to carry a mirrorless camera everywhere, nor deal with Bandcamp. Bandcamp recommendations and artist/album similarity ratings are top notch, and there are many clients for the platform. I personally can't use Spotify or Apple Music after taking advantage of Bandcamp. Bandcamp also only takes a 10% - 15% fee for digital purchases, and 10% of purchases for physical items, which is an incredible deal for artists compared to what they make from streaming services like Apple Music or Spotify.

jay_kyburz 5y ago

Bandcamp is great, and there is something really wrong with Apple music in Firefox on windows. Its very slow and its seems to do authentication _after_ loading the rest of the page and often fails.

fleaaaa 5y ago
Glad it wasn't just me. How is it that slow with gigabit connection? In fact, I really like their catalog and match algorithm but I always thought apple music being outside of its own fence feels gross.
- schmorptron 5y ago
  The android app is good, though I can't compare it to the iOS version. On windows, itunes works okay-ish albeit slow. On Linux, the web app is the only option and it sucks way bad.