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If you admit to using weed in the past year, they will make you wait to get your clearance. As long as you don't have any DUIs or legal trouble from drinking yo

If you admit to using weed in the past year, they will make you wait to get your clearance. As long as you don't have any DUIs or legal trouble from drinking you will not be restricted. Unless you say something like "I have a serious drinking problem and get blackout drunk every night" Drinking is not an issue, even people who do drink too much will consider themselves moderate drinkers, even if they are lying to themselves. So, admission to responsible weed usage and responsible alcohol usage will get different results. I have a clearance and almost all of my coworkers talked openly about drinking too much on occasion, but no one would say they touched weed

throwaway6734 5y ago
The one year thing is no longer the case based on my experience. Some friends of mine had extensive marijuana use in a legal state up to 5 months before being successfully cleared
- frankbreetz 5y ago
  They did for me about 4 years ago, they didn't explicitly state this, so it could have just been a backlog, but a lot of people got their clearance quicker during this period.
- frankfrankfrank 5y ago
  That is happening, but it is also both a function of a crumbling system and a bit of desperation of the system to hire people, whether they are necessary or not. The system does not really care about the drug use as much as it cares about whether whatever the factor, you can or cannot be manipulated because of it. The caveat of that being though that the system used to function on that basis, something that I am increasingly witnessing is no longer the case. What we are really living through right now is a kind of civilizational event horizon where, e.g., one society/culture has no remaining knowledge of what something really was for or how it was really used or what systems created it, even as they still use or worship it or perform certain rituals simply out of repetition and custom. A rather good example of this process is the whole "space race" where the Germans pioneered space travel technology, which ended in a kind of collapse of the whole knowledge base to the point that the USA was hitching a ride on Russian rockets just to get to an aging space station, and where space travel had to essentially be rediscovered by SpaceX, etc. I don't think people quite understand what happened in that 1955-2010 period where the "advanced society" of today stumbled upon the ancient technology of the 1955-1960s when men with straight edges and graphing paper put men on the moon and brought them back home and couldn't figure out how exactly they did it … something that has still not been replicated.
dahfizz 5y ago
This goes a bit beyond just cultural taboo. A breathalyzer test can determine if you are under the influence of alcohol _at this moment_. No such test exists for weed. The only way to prove someone is not high is to do the usual urine test, which returns positive if you've smoked at all in the past ~month. It's a liability thing. If a "weed breathalyzer" is invented and employers can prove that you are sober when reporting to work, I think smoking in the evening will become much less of an issue.
- sweetheart 5y ago
  There are devices to detect if someone is currently high from weed, though they are not very common. Source is my SO who works doing DUI rehabilitation therapy for alcohol and weed.
  - jcomis 5y ago
    I believe the marijuana "breathalyzer" / swab tests are known to moderately to wildly inaccurate, like you can test positive 2 days after consumption in some cases. Law enforcement desperately wants such a device, so naturally there are plenty of companies willing to fudge their numbers to provide it however.

throwaway6734 5y ago

The one year thing is no longer the case based on my experience. Some friends of mine had extensive marijuana use in a legal state up to 5 months before being successfully cleared

frankbreetz 5y ago
They did for me about 4 years ago, they didn't explicitly state this, so it could have just been a backlog, but a lot of people got their clearance quicker during this period.
frankfrankfrank 5y ago
That is happening, but it is also both a function of a crumbling system and a bit of desperation of the system to hire people, whether they are necessary or not. The system does not really care about the drug use as much as it cares about whether whatever the factor, you can or cannot be manipulated because of it. The caveat of that being though that the system used to function on that basis, something that I am increasingly witnessing is no longer the case. What we are really living through right now is a kind of civilizational event horizon where, e.g., one society/culture has no remaining knowledge of what something really was for or how it was really used or what systems created it, even as they still use or worship it or perform certain rituals simply out of repetition and custom. A rather good example of this process is the whole "space race" where the Germans pioneered space travel technology, which ended in a kind of collapse of the whole knowledge base to the point that the USA was hitching a ride on Russian rockets just to get to an aging space station, and where space travel had to essentially be rediscovered by SpaceX, etc. I don't think people quite understand what happened in that 1955-2010 period where the "advanced society" of today stumbled upon the ancient technology of the 1955-1960s when men with straight edges and graphing paper put men on the moon and brought them back home and couldn't figure out how exactly they did it … something that has still not been replicated.

dahfizz 5y ago

This goes a bit beyond just cultural taboo. A breathalyzer test can determine if you are under the influence of alcohol _at this moment_. No such test exists for weed. The only way to prove someone is not high is to do the usual urine test, which returns positive if you've smoked at all in the past ~month. It's a liability thing. If a "weed breathalyzer" is invented and employers can prove that you are sober when reporting to work, I think smoking in the evening will become much less of an issue.

sweetheart 5y ago
There are devices to detect if someone is currently high from weed, though they are not very common. Source is my SO who works doing DUI rehabilitation therapy for alcohol and weed.
- jcomis 5y ago
  I believe the marijuana "breathalyzer" / swab tests are known to moderately to wildly inaccurate, like you can test positive 2 days after consumption in some cases. Law enforcement desperately wants such a device, so naturally there are plenty of companies willing to fudge their numbers to provide it however.