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I'm sure that's true for some small percentage of the population to try and one-up each other with dangerous acts. But the fact that they do it because it is il

I'm sure that's true for some small percentage of the population to try and one-up each other with dangerous acts. But the fact that they do it because it is illegal is very dubious. Where is the world of underground illegal cycling on freeways? Right, there is no culture of that because no one from the general populace is doing that for fun. The one-upping can only exist in a culture that is well established via some other means. For instance, search for "gravity biking" which is an incredibly dangerous sport that only exists in places with a big cycling culture. The legality of pot has nothing to do with daredevil behavior.

gregkerzhner 5y ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-NsgOa42VE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-NsgOa42VE Here is your world of underground freeway biking btw
- hervature 5y ago
  That road has a sidewalk, that isn't a freeway.
GDC7 5y ago
> Where is the world of underground illegal cycling on freeways? The underground culture of illegal street racing is alive and well though. Cycling is not a social activity in the sense that has constraints to socialization both during the activity as well as before/after. Street racing isn't that social of an activity either but it exists and thriving. The Fast saga made 15B from it. Drug consumption on a night out is the social activity by definition, it trumps street racing.
- hervature 5y ago
  You essentially prove my point. That an illicit form of a dangerous activity exists because many other people are doing it as part of their daily life not because the activity is in itself illegal.
  - GDC7 5y ago
    No , it's because of the thrill. Street racing has an element of thrill and danger in the race itself, whereas pot only trill would be breaking the law given that it is impossible to OD and there is little to no harm. The low toxicity and low harm are positives but only as long as there is some form of thrill to keep the population hooked on pot. That is: breaking the law.
    - hervature 5y ago
      I believe we are saying the same thing. I called these people daredevils in my original post to capture exactly that they are pursuing thrills. I'm sure doing pot is thrilling for puritans because it is illegal but that is so laughable because of the state of reality. My point remains that these daredevils aren't going to upgrade to harsher substances if pot is legalized because that has long since past on the thrills scale.
    - halo37253 5y ago
      I don't think you've ever smoked pot... People are not smoking pot as a trill of breaking the law. Just as drinking alcohol before the age of 21 is not for the trill of breaking the law, but for the feeling it gives. Alcohol is in every way worse for you as a person and for society, yet it is fully legal. I don't smoke simply because my Job requires a pot free lifestyle. But I spent the first half of my 20s doing it, and the last thing on my mind or anyone else was "Take that LawMan". Plus you can be a daily smoker for 6+ years and quit cold turkey. Sure you might crave it, but that is more mental. Your body doesn't break down from not having it. Unless you have poor mental control to keep yourself from breaking. Its the same weak control that fools people into dumping money into mobile games. It's not because of the thill. It's because people like to relax or focus. There are two different main strains and both do different things, one is more relaxing the other is more energizing.
    - cthalupa 5y ago
      I don't know a single pothead who does it because of the thrill of breaking the law. They do it because they enjoy being high. Which is anecdotal, but still more grounded in reality than wild conjecture based on nothing.

gregkerzhner 5y ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-NsgOa42VE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g-NsgOa42VE Here is your world of underground freeway biking btw

hervature 5y ago
That road has a sidewalk, that isn't a freeway.

GDC7 5y ago

> Where is the world of underground illegal cycling on freeways? The underground culture of illegal street racing is alive and well though. Cycling is not a social activity in the sense that has constraints to socialization both during the activity as well as before/after. Street racing isn't that social of an activity either but it exists and thriving. The Fast saga made 15B from it. Drug consumption on a night out is the social activity by definition, it trumps street racing.

hervature 5y ago
You essentially prove my point. That an illicit form of a dangerous activity exists because many other people are doing it as part of their daily life not because the activity is in itself illegal.
- GDC7 5y ago
  No , it's because of the thrill. Street racing has an element of thrill and danger in the race itself, whereas pot only trill would be breaking the law given that it is impossible to OD and there is little to no harm. The low toxicity and low harm are positives but only as long as there is some form of thrill to keep the population hooked on pot. That is: breaking the law.
  - hervature 5y ago
    I believe we are saying the same thing. I called these people daredevils in my original post to capture exactly that they are pursuing thrills. I'm sure doing pot is thrilling for puritans because it is illegal but that is so laughable because of the state of reality. My point remains that these daredevils aren't going to upgrade to harsher substances if pot is legalized because that has long since past on the thrills scale.
  - halo37253 5y ago
    I don't think you've ever smoked pot... People are not smoking pot as a trill of breaking the law. Just as drinking alcohol before the age of 21 is not for the trill of breaking the law, but for the feeling it gives. Alcohol is in every way worse for you as a person and for society, yet it is fully legal. I don't smoke simply because my Job requires a pot free lifestyle. But I spent the first half of my 20s doing it, and the last thing on my mind or anyone else was "Take that LawMan". Plus you can be a daily smoker for 6+ years and quit cold turkey. Sure you might crave it, but that is more mental. Your body doesn't break down from not having it. Unless you have poor mental control to keep yourself from breaking. Its the same weak control that fools people into dumping money into mobile games. It's not because of the thill. It's because people like to relax or focus. There are two different main strains and both do different things, one is more relaxing the other is more energizing.
  - cthalupa 5y ago
    I don't know a single pothead who does it because of the thrill of breaking the law. They do it because they enjoy being high. Which is anecdotal, but still more grounded in reality than wild conjecture based on nothing.