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"Here in the Nordics there is no law protecting you from not getting fired for not showing up for work during a strike." Though I can't speak to that fact spec

"Here in the Nordics there is no law protecting you from not getting fired for not showing up for work during a strike." Though I can't speak to that fact specifically, I doubt that Nordics can be fired from not showing up due to striking - because 'striking' i.e. the threat of shutting down the factory and the company not being able to dismiss everyone is the basis for the collective bargaining power. Without the 'power' there is no basis to bargain. If the company can just punt unskilled workers and hire new ones, then striking has considerably less power in most scenarios. That said it's worth pointing out the differences between Nordic Unions and traditional American Unions. The later is heavily working class (think Ford/GM plant) while the former is just as much 'White Collar' (think Teachers Union). Also, it's worth pointing out that again, technically, it's 'legal' to 'not show up for work' even if you're a member of an N/A union, it just means you'll be let go and that's that. People are pushing the wording of that far to aggressively.

aidenn0 5y ago
> Though I can't speak to that fact specifically, I doubt that Nordics can be fired from not showing up due to striking - because 'striking' i.e. the threat of shutting down the factory and the company not being able to dismiss everyone is the basis for the collective bargaining power. > Without the 'power' there is no basis to bargain. My understanding is that the Nordic unions have this power via secondary boycots. If you hire non-union unskilled labor for your factory, good luck getting unionized truck drivers to haul the finished product away. > Also, it's worth pointing out that again, technically, it's 'legal' to 'not show up for work' even if you're a member of an N/A union, it just means you'll be let go and that's that. People are pushing the wording of that far to aggressively. "Illegal" and "Unlawful" are terms that are widely used. Just participating in an illegal strike is not criminal and (unless you otherwise disrupt the company's business) the only civil repercussion is loss of job (including backwages).

aidenn0 5y ago

> Though I can't speak to that fact specifically, I doubt that Nordics can be fired from not showing up due to striking - because 'striking' i.e. the threat of shutting down the factory and the company not being able to dismiss everyone is the basis for the collective bargaining power. > Without the 'power' there is no basis to bargain. My understanding is that the Nordic unions have this power via secondary boycots. If you hire non-union unskilled labor for your factory, good luck getting unionized truck drivers to haul the finished product away. > Also, it's worth pointing out that again, technically, it's 'legal' to 'not show up for work' even if you're a member of an N/A union, it just means you'll be let go and that's that. People are pushing the wording of that far to aggressively. "Illegal" and "Unlawful" are terms that are widely used. Just participating in an illegal strike is not criminal and (unless you otherwise disrupt the company's business) the only civil repercussion is loss of job (including backwages).