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Pictures of so many firearms would definitely make me think this guy is eccentric at best and dangerous at worst. Combined with the articles suggesting "taxes a

by ido 5y ago

Pictures of so many firearms would definitely make me think this guy is eccentric at best and dangerous at worst. Combined with the articles suggesting "taxes are theft" and that latin quote on the instagram I'd not be enthusiastic about sending business their way. EDIT: I wanted to add that it's also the type of guns in these pics (surrounding a post of only the word "disobey")- these aren't hunting rifles but guns that are more commonly used on people (AR-15, pistols). That doesn't look like someone about to go deer hunting.

naasking 5y ago
> these aren't hunting rifles but guns that are more commonly used on people (AR-15, pistols) What a weird thing to think. Those guns are most commonly used on gun range targets, not people, even in countries with high rates of gun violence.
collegeburner 5y ago
The idea that an AR is "commonly used on people" is bs. It's widely used as a hunting rifle or for recreational shooting and is the most common rifle in America. That's also not as many guns as you think, looks like he's swapping the furniture on his AR a bunch of times, ditto for the Glock 19. And things like "sic semper tyrannus" and "taxation is theft" are pretty common among American libertarians. The "disobey" refers to a really awful rule the ATF is trying to make that would reclassify many braced pistols as SBRs overnight, and since SBRs are title II firearms, having one unregistered would make felons of people who bought entirely legal firearms.
- ido 5y ago
  Be that as it may but as a non-American my first reaction would have definitely been that at best this guy is a survivalist and at worst someone planning a shooting (and in-between someone who would have participated in stuff like the January capitol attack). I'm living and have lived in countries without widespread gun usage (Germany and Austria) and I've never seen people carrying AR-15 or guns with a similar "military" look around here (I have seen hunting rifles) and have previously lived in a country with widespread gun usage (Israel) and the only people I've seen carrying guns like those there were soldiers or police officers.
  - ryandrake 5y ago
    Without wading too much into this fraught topic, I'd like to just point out that the AR-15 and other weapons with what you describe as the "military look" are functionally equivalent to many hunting rifles. Replace the "military look" with a beautiful mahogany stock, and your mind probably thinks "deer hunter" rather than "weirdo survivalist" but it's the exact same gun.
    - throwaway210222 5y ago
      > AR15 … are … equivalent to many hunting rifles. You need hunting rifles with large magazines that fire in automatic? Damn
      - collegeburner 5y ago
        You have an AR that does automatic? Damn Cause there aren't many of those and one will run you well over $20k
        throwaway210222 5y ago
        Fine, semi-automatic (I wear my awful skills as a soldier as a badge of honour). Still, I have never seen a PH (professional hunter) need a semi-automatic assault rifle to shoot a buck.
        collegeburner 5y ago
        Dont know what you call need but lots of ppl hunt with semi autos these days. Even if its squirrel youll find them with a mini 14 not a bolt or lever action. Possible exception is kiddie 22 rifles for 8-12 year olds. Bolt, lever, etc to be in the rly pricey hunting rifles like creedmoor. Also i never met somebody who go hunting with an assault rifle. Good few use ARs though cause theyre super common. Theres a dozen cartridges "better" for hunting but that means a new pricey rifle and pricier ammo. .30-30 will run you a buck a round, .223 like 30 cents. And 3030 is not by a long shot the priciest hunting round.
ezekg 5y ago
> That doesn't look like someone about to go deer hunting. I would just like to point out, and then I'm going to leave this weird conversation alone, that the US second amendment is not, and never was, about hunting. It's about protecting the outcome of the American Revolution, and self-defense. I'm allowed to post my personal beliefs on my personal social media pages, because it makes me happy and helps me meet like minded people. I'm not going to censor myself to please a demographic. I've done that enough in my life.
- ido 5y ago
  You're definitely allowed to do just that! Was just supporting the poster above with another data point that it definitely looks really off outside the US.

by ido 5y ago

naasking 5y ago

> these aren't hunting rifles but guns that are more commonly used on people (AR-15, pistols) What a weird thing to think. Those guns are most commonly used on gun range targets, not people, even in countries with high rates of gun violence.

collegeburner 5y ago

The idea that an AR is "commonly used on people" is bs. It's widely used as a hunting rifle or for recreational shooting and is the most common rifle in America. That's also not as many guns as you think, looks like he's swapping the furniture on his AR a bunch of times, ditto for the Glock 19. And things like "sic semper tyrannus" and "taxation is theft" are pretty common among American libertarians. The "disobey" refers to a really awful rule the ATF is trying to make that would reclassify many braced pistols as SBRs overnight, and since SBRs are title II firearms, having one unregistered would make felons of people who bought entirely legal firearms.

ido 5y ago
Be that as it may but as a non-American my first reaction would have definitely been that at best this guy is a survivalist and at worst someone planning a shooting (and in-between someone who would have participated in stuff like the January capitol attack). I'm living and have lived in countries without widespread gun usage (Germany and Austria) and I've never seen people carrying AR-15 or guns with a similar "military" look around here (I have seen hunting rifles) and have previously lived in a country with widespread gun usage (Israel) and the only people I've seen carrying guns like those there were soldiers or police officers.
- ryandrake 5y ago
  Without wading too much into this fraught topic, I'd like to just point out that the AR-15 and other weapons with what you describe as the "military look" are functionally equivalent to many hunting rifles. Replace the "military look" with a beautiful mahogany stock, and your mind probably thinks "deer hunter" rather than "weirdo survivalist" but it's the exact same gun.
  - throwaway210222 5y ago
    > AR15 … are … equivalent to many hunting rifles. You need hunting rifles with large magazines that fire in automatic? Damn
    - collegeburner 5y ago
      You have an AR that does automatic? Damn Cause there aren't many of those and one will run you well over $20k
      - throwaway210222 5y ago
        Fine, semi-automatic (I wear my awful skills as a soldier as a badge of honour). Still, I have never seen a PH (professional hunter) need a semi-automatic assault rifle to shoot a buck.
        collegeburner 5y ago
        Dont know what you call need but lots of ppl hunt with semi autos these days. Even if its squirrel youll find them with a mini 14 not a bolt or lever action. Possible exception is kiddie 22 rifles for 8-12 year olds. Bolt, lever, etc to be in the rly pricey hunting rifles like creedmoor. Also i never met somebody who go hunting with an assault rifle. Good few use ARs though cause theyre super common. Theres a dozen cartridges "better" for hunting but that means a new pricey rifle and pricier ammo. .30-30 will run you a buck a round, .223 like 30 cents. And 3030 is not by a long shot the priciest hunting round.

ezekg 5y ago

> That doesn't look like someone about to go deer hunting. I would just like to point out, and then I'm going to leave this weird conversation alone, that the US second amendment is not, and never was, about hunting. It's about protecting the outcome of the American Revolution, and self-defense. I'm allowed to post my personal beliefs on my personal social media pages, because it makes me happy and helps me meet like minded people. I'm not going to censor myself to please a demographic. I've done that enough in my life.

ido 5y ago
You're definitely allowed to do just that! Was just supporting the poster above with another data point that it definitely looks really off outside the US.