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Title is click bait, if McKinsey killed it then so did every other org that misuses “agile”. And here's the revelation in the article: Agile’s underlying prin

Title is click bait, if McKinsey killed it then so did every other org that misuses “agile”. And here's the revelation in the article: Agile’s underlying principles and values are now table stakes for any organisation. I leave it to everyone else to make up their own opinion about that.

rualca 5y ago
> Title is click bait, if McKinsey killed it then so did every other org that misuses “agile”. (...) > I leave it to everyone else to make up their own opinion about that. Yeah the article is pretty bad. Indeed it all boils down to your run-of-the-mill regurgitated and recycled complain that organizations abuse trendy keywords without any intention to actually follow through. All in all, a waste of a perfectly good click.
- tempodox 5y ago
  All clicks are final. There is no reimbursement.
matt_s 5y ago
And here I was thinking to throw away everything I've been doing and just go back to waterfall. Title could have been "Consulting company promotes themselves"
- pjmlp 5y ago
  I have long returned back to waterfall, it just happens to take two weeks at a time. Pure agile never worked on non-software industries, due to the way all parties expect to deal with requirements, demos, documentation, long term roadmaps, budget allocation for next year projects,...
  - matt_s 5y ago
    Totally agree that non-software benefits from traditional project planning. In a project management class it was taught that the project framework should be adapted to the project. It sounds really formal but planning how you plan the project is key for some things. For example, I would guess building a nuclear power plant isn't an iterative type of project. Lots of risks and lots of sequential activities. A team could probably spend weeks to months just planning the plan.
    - pjmlp 5y ago
      Even more basic examples, like when is the software ready with 100% feature capabilities, so that everyone can take a training. Schedule, travel accommodations, teaching materials, trainers,.... need to be accounted for and planned on due time, on synch with go live for the new infrastructure.
- throwaway_Aef8 5y ago
  "Small Consulting company promotes themselves by attacking Large Consulting company by playing off allegiances to tech religions" https://devbizops.medium.com/are-you-tech-religious-fb281b391aba https://devbizops.medium.com/are-you-tech-religious-fb281b39...
PaulKeeble 5y ago
Shocker that organisations that could never work out what agile was and no intention of adopting the principles of it are still redefining what it means. Nothing changed they have been doing that for 2 decades ever since it took off, most large organisations never want to empower their staff so they fail at step 0, they don't want what agile is selling. They are finding it awfully hard to find staff however if they don't list it!

rualca 5y ago

> Title is click bait, if McKinsey killed it then so did every other org that misuses “agile”. (...) > I leave it to everyone else to make up their own opinion about that. Yeah the article is pretty bad. Indeed it all boils down to your run-of-the-mill regurgitated and recycled complain that organizations abuse trendy keywords without any intention to actually follow through. All in all, a waste of a perfectly good click.

tempodox 5y ago
All clicks are final. There is no reimbursement.

matt_s 5y ago

And here I was thinking to throw away everything I've been doing and just go back to waterfall. Title could have been "Consulting company promotes themselves"

pjmlp 5y ago
I have long returned back to waterfall, it just happens to take two weeks at a time. Pure agile never worked on non-software industries, due to the way all parties expect to deal with requirements, demos, documentation, long term roadmaps, budget allocation for next year projects,...
- matt_s 5y ago
  Totally agree that non-software benefits from traditional project planning. In a project management class it was taught that the project framework should be adapted to the project. It sounds really formal but planning how you plan the project is key for some things. For example, I would guess building a nuclear power plant isn't an iterative type of project. Lots of risks and lots of sequential activities. A team could probably spend weeks to months just planning the plan.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Even more basic examples, like when is the software ready with 100% feature capabilities, so that everyone can take a training. Schedule, travel accommodations, teaching materials, trainers,.... need to be accounted for and planned on due time, on synch with go live for the new infrastructure.
throwaway_Aef8 5y ago
"Small Consulting company promotes themselves by attacking Large Consulting company by playing off allegiances to tech religions" https://devbizops.medium.com/are-you-tech-religious-fb281b391aba https://devbizops.medium.com/are-you-tech-religious-fb281b39...

PaulKeeble 5y ago

Shocker that organisations that could never work out what agile was and no intention of adopting the principles of it are still redefining what it means. Nothing changed they have been doing that for 2 decades ever since it took off, most large organisations never want to empower their staff so they fail at step 0, they don't want what agile is selling. They are finding it awfully hard to find staff however if they don't list it!