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I have FB on my resume. I make hiring decisions. I will delete any applicant who was at FB over the past three years without a moment's hesitation. You do no

by evgen 5y ago

I have FB on my resume. I make hiring decisions. I will delete any applicant who was at FB over the past three years without a moment's hesitation. You do not take an FB offer to 'pay the bills', you take it because you want to acquire a big pile of money. There was a point pre-IPO where you could think that you were actually trying to do something cool, interesting, and overall were helping people stay connected with each other. Then there was a point where you could tell yourself that you were working on some big and interesting problems and if you didn't do your job well or nail some very tricky problems then it would have a negative impact on people's lives (or even get people killed if you messed up security/privacy and revealed info about some people.) Then one day you wake up and realize you are a prostitute working in Zuck's brothel, but unlike a real sex worker your actions are ending up fucking millions of people a day. If you don't leave at this point you are as unethical as the people around you.

ramphastidae 5y ago
Wow. So do you have a list of objective criteria you use to decide which list of companies is morally acceptable for your candidates to have worked at, or are you just coming up with an arbitrary list based on your emotions and limited personal experience? Isn’t this also incredibly hypocritical given that you admit to working at FB yourself in the past? Shouldn’t you technically fire yourself, or do you of course consider your circumstances an exception?
- evgen 5y ago
  > do you have a list of objective criteria you use to decide which list of companies is morally acceptable for your candidates to have worked at As a matter of fact I do. > Isn’t this also incredibly hypocritical given that you admit to working at FB yourself in the past It is. I excuse myself by saying that it was creepy but not overtly evil at the point where I left. To be honest, I think I got out at just the right time to have a small shred of morality left, but of course I would say that and others may differ. I am sure lots of people do not care, and the fact that my work at FB in its early days gets me interviews shows this to be a widespread opinion, but I have been inside the factory and have seen how the sausage is made. I have a date I keep in my head, and if you were at FB after that point you would be a 'no hire' for me.
  - ramphastidae 5y ago
    Yeah. So you worked at FB, made your dirty money, got your new role, and are now demonizing others who made the same decision as you. But it’s different for you, or course, and easy to do now that you’ve made your cash. You are just as immoral as the candidates you are rejecting, if not more.
    - evgen 5y ago
      Your childish belief that companies are static entities and that the moral calculus of a job doesn't change over time makes this entire conversation a fools errand. Searching for simple black and white answers for complex problems never seems to work well. Sorry you were never good enough to make the cut and will never face these kinds of questions, but the simple fact is that at one point it was different and the company grew into something else entirely.

by evgen 5y ago

ramphastidae 5y ago

Wow. So do you have a list of objective criteria you use to decide which list of companies is morally acceptable for your candidates to have worked at, or are you just coming up with an arbitrary list based on your emotions and limited personal experience? Isn’t this also incredibly hypocritical given that you admit to working at FB yourself in the past? Shouldn’t you technically fire yourself, or do you of course consider your circumstances an exception?

evgen 5y ago
> do you have a list of objective criteria you use to decide which list of companies is morally acceptable for your candidates to have worked at As a matter of fact I do. > Isn’t this also incredibly hypocritical given that you admit to working at FB yourself in the past It is. I excuse myself by saying that it was creepy but not overtly evil at the point where I left. To be honest, I think I got out at just the right time to have a small shred of morality left, but of course I would say that and others may differ. I am sure lots of people do not care, and the fact that my work at FB in its early days gets me interviews shows this to be a widespread opinion, but I have been inside the factory and have seen how the sausage is made. I have a date I keep in my head, and if you were at FB after that point you would be a 'no hire' for me.
- ramphastidae 5y ago
  Yeah. So you worked at FB, made your dirty money, got your new role, and are now demonizing others who made the same decision as you. But it’s different for you, or course, and easy to do now that you’ve made your cash. You are just as immoral as the candidates you are rejecting, if not more.
  - evgen 5y ago
    Your childish belief that companies are static entities and that the moral calculus of a job doesn't change over time makes this entire conversation a fools errand. Searching for simple black and white answers for complex problems never seems to work well. Sorry you were never good enough to make the cut and will never face these kinds of questions, but the simple fact is that at one point it was different and the company grew into something else entirely.