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If a lot of people are shitty in the same way we can try to find out what causes that and fix it. There's a reason "you're not a real women" isn't an insult, b
by ajuc 5y ago
If a lot of people are shitty in the same way we can try to find out what causes that and fix it.
There's a reason "you're not a real women" isn't an insult, but "you're not a real man" is. There's a reason men live 3-10% shorter than women and commit suicide several times more often (in my country 8 times more often). And there's a reason divorce law is absurdly sexist.
This is not to say "women are evil", there's no secret conspiracy to reinforce the gender roles, no "matriarchy" nor "patriarchy" keeping the status quo. It's simply people repeating what they were taught about life to their children because "that's the way it should be".
So the fix isn't to "find better spouses", the fix is to make people better human beings and live the way they want.
- pjc50 5y ago> no "matriarchy" nor "patriarchy" keeping the status quo. It's simply people repeating what they were taught about life to their children because "that's the way it should be". That is the "patriarchy". It was never claimed to be a Dr Evil thing.
- ajuc 5y agoWell, the way it's portrayed in some feminist propaganda it's a club of old white guys keeping everybody else down. Also calling it "patriarchy" when it hurts both genders equally and is reinforced by both genders equally - is counterproductive.
- pjc50 5y agoWhat would you prefer to call it?
- ajuc 5y agoHarmful gender stereotypes? Culturally enforced strict gender roles? Something like that. Another related concept in feminism is "toxic masculinity" and that name is even worse. If you're trying to solve a problem don't start by naming it "it's all their faultism". Curiously I've never heard anybody call the same phenomenon happening to women "toxic femininity".
- nicoburns 5y ago> There's a reason "you're not a real women" isn't an insult, but "you're not a real man" is. One thing I might note is that a lot of these kind of harmful social constructs were applied to women 100 years ago. Things as trivial as wearing trousers and as important as voting or working would have been considered "not womanlike" back then. What has changed that is ~100 years of the feminist movement, which made all of these and more acceptable for women. But there hasn't been and still isn't such a movement for men. And I would suggest that that's what we need.