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Nothing screams ignorance like people who comment on threads like these equating Chinese censorship to Western censorship. Is their censorship in the western wo

Nothing screams ignorance like people who comment on threads like these equating Chinese censorship to Western censorship. Is their censorship in the western world? Absolutely. Are theere authoritarian psudo-dictatorial states in the Western world with a society that is held in informational bondage compared to the rest of the world? Not to my knowledge.

ajo_mathew 5y ago
India
- jeswin 5y ago
  > India India's not in the Western World. And it's also quite a stretch to say that Indians are held in "informational bondage". The only way that'd be even remotely true would be if we take into account the polarizing, biased nature of Indian news media - but that's not uniquely an Indian problem these days.
whyAstate 5y ago
Why is a nation state government the indicator you need? Religious groups exist in all countries and fit the authoritarian, pseudo-dictatorial, information bondage description. American right wingers have begun pointing at the Taliban as doing it right. And your perspective on the US not looking that way is highly subjective; we’re held in informational bondage to finance and the Constitution. We cannot exert agency that violates all manner of accepted facts (arbitrary facts of society, not science). I think you got a bit loose with your language. We chant disruption and quarterly gains, IPO, chase wealth. Of the 2 million in prison in the US, over half a million are there for drug crimes, drugs are bad, “just say no.” Sounds like information bondage. Let’s not forget security forces blasting kids in the face on UC campus for a sit down protest. Repeat these things to yourself as often as you hear “China this…” or “Russia that…” Reinforcement matters. Oh sure a leader here and there may be better. But on the ground gen pop has just accepted if they sit on the wrong long they’ll be shot.

ajo_mathew 5y ago

India

jeswin 5y ago
> India India's not in the Western World. And it's also quite a stretch to say that Indians are held in "informational bondage". The only way that'd be even remotely true would be if we take into account the polarizing, biased nature of Indian news media - but that's not uniquely an Indian problem these days.

whyAstate 5y ago

Why is a nation state government the indicator you need? Religious groups exist in all countries and fit the authoritarian, pseudo-dictatorial, information bondage description. American right wingers have begun pointing at the Taliban as doing it right. And your perspective on the US not looking that way is highly subjective; we’re held in informational bondage to finance and the Constitution. We cannot exert agency that violates all manner of accepted facts (arbitrary facts of society, not science). I think you got a bit loose with your language. We chant disruption and quarterly gains, IPO, chase wealth. Of the 2 million in prison in the US, over half a million are there for drug crimes, drugs are bad, “just say no.” Sounds like information bondage. Let’s not forget security forces blasting kids in the face on UC campus for a sit down protest. Repeat these things to yourself as often as you hear “China this…” or “Russia that…” Reinforcement matters. Oh sure a leader here and there may be better. But on the ground gen pop has just accepted if they sit on the wrong long they’ll be shot.