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> but the tooling in PHP is amateur hour by comparison Looks like maybe the ignorance goes both ways? People really underestimate the size and maturity of the
by tomnipotent 5y ago
> but the tooling in PHP is amateur hour by comparison
Looks like maybe the ignorance goes both ways? People really underestimate the size and maturity of the PHP web development ecosystem and it's professional community, and there's no shortage of tooling to build and support apps on the language.
Django: 34,019, Laravel: 26,881, Rails: 9,300
https://github.com/topics/django https://github.com/topics/django
https://github.com/topics/laravel https://github.com/topics/laravel
https://github.com/topics/rails https://github.com/topics/rails
- hu3 5y agoand Symfony: 25,800 https://github.com/symfony/symfony https://github.com/symfony/symfony Modern PHP ecosystem is a shadow of their former self, in a positive way.
- tomnipotent 5y agoComposer shored up package management. Laravel and Symfony offer robust framework ecosystems. PHP 7 bridged the performance gap with HHVM. Libraries for a wide-range of critical infrastructure services from databases (Postgres, MySQL, Elasticache, Redis) to messaging systems (AMQP, Kafka, ) to monitoring and observability (New Relic/DataDog, Prometheus, Sentry). Cloud support is ubiquitous. Even the top packages are pedestrian things like logging, event dispatching, sub-process management, and testing. But PHP has a Microsoft-level of baggage, and those bridges can't be unburned.