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people complain about, for example, people looking at the road slightly less often when using FSD. but people are out to lunch when i point out that i see every
by abdel_nasser 5y ago
people complain about, for example, people looking at the road slightly less often when using FSD. but people are out to lunch when i point out that i see every other driver on the road craning their neck over a smartphone. people point out that FSD crashed into things. but they are out to lunch when i point out that people crash into a hundred things every day because they are looking at their smart phones, doing their makeup or drinking alcohol. its just a flaccid argument that people are being endangered because they might misinterpret the unmistakable warnings and reminders in teslas self driving system, thinking it could do more than it does. when i can go to an average american bar at last call and not see a swarm of people stumbling into their cars -- or when i can look at other drivers and see 1/4 of them staring at their phones rather than 1/3 -- then i might worry about it. if you have a shred of intellectual honesty, you will campaign against things that actually endanger drivers rather than something that not only is relatively safe but gets safer with every year and stands to save countless lives if it works.
- FireBeyond 5y agoPeople using smartphones while driving are absolutely distracted. Whether they think they are capable of managing that distraction (and how well that perception actually maps to reality), the distraction is understood and explicit. In contrast, one of the challenges with FSD is that the driver often acts as though there's no distraction at all, and that their inattention to the road (apropos of detecting 'attentiveness') is a non-issue "because the car is driving and paying attention". That's what this study is about - that markers that Tesla and other manufacturers are using to measure attentiveness may not be particularly accurate.
- abdel_nasser 5y agothere is no study, including this one, that supports what you are saying. one of the challenges is that the driver often, "often" where is this often coming from? do you sit in with drivers and watch them? they often do this. you are completely making that up.