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i went through the article .. read the paper it was based on ... saw the data they sited .... saw the conclusion they reached ... was severely worried of the s
by elisharobinson 5y ago
i went through the article .. read the paper it was based on ... saw the data they sited .... saw the conclusion they reached ... was severely worried of the state of academia and what qualifies as "research"
>> the only significant conclusion this paper had was a driver was more than 22% likely to look at the "down and center stack" when on AP
>> the paper was based on data found on this https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8751968 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8751968 paper author by none other than my favourite podcaster D Lex Friedman . the study is conducted on 25 cars all either model S/X from 2016-2019 AKA pre fsd hardware and driver monitoring.
>> now tesla has a big screen on the center console and i would find it natural to see the navigation when im not driving. BUT all other aspects of driving were not that far from normal ... turns out people do all sorts of dumb stuff with or without AP
>> this took me less than 15 mins of googling and i was baffled by how something so stupid could go past even the most bare bone peer review . and then i found about "The Advanced Vehicle Technology Consortium (AVT)"https://agelab.mit.edu/avt https://agelab.mit.edu/avt the sponsor of some of the co-authors . Which curiously has major car companies and suppliers listed as partners except for tesla . i dont have the inside info on how money changes hands in academia ... but the whole thing looks pretty bad
personally i am biased towards Tesla (aka tesla fanboy) . But i feel there is enough wrong here to justify my case that this was a academia sponsored hit piece not to different from climate change deniers or tobacco companies.
- FireBeyond 5y agoYour comment on the AVT... I have no idea, or no horse in the race, but Tesla is also famously averse to avoiding or pushing back against industry bodies, up to and including the NTSB (I know that's not an "industry body"), but I think there's more to be confirmed there before we think "legacy auto trying to beat down upstart". Was Tesla invited to the Consortium?
- elisharobinson 5y agoSo you have no issue with the sample size being so small and exclusively comming from older models of Tesla's s and X lineup . Making a claim about Tesla as a whole today.
- FireBeyond 5y agoWhich claim? About the NTSB? Did the NTSB somehow prohibit Tesla from participating in safety testing with only "older models"?
- elisharobinson 5y agothe sample size of the study which the paper was originally based on only had 25 teslas (model s and x from 2016-19 era). Before jumping into the analysis or the methods or techniques used to parse the data. I think it is important to acknowledge that the sample size is hilariously small and represents a very small % of teslas current AP harware software stack.