I didn't write those things though. "So you don’t think they care that their members can keep their jobs long-term? Is that not in their interest?" I don't ca

I didn't write those things though. "So you don’t think they care that their members can keep their jobs long-term? Is that not in their interest?" I don't care one way or the other. I'm saying that a Union is an organized body of power that protects it's own self-interest, and nobody else's. "To imply that all unions without fail will push for maximum possible compensation in the short-term, at the expense of any other concern, " I didn't write or imply that. I'm wrote that Unions will use their power to maximize the returns above all else. Obviously, if they try to negotiate $200K salaries for their staff, they know they will be out of jobs. However - every single dollar of profit to shareholders, added surplus to buyers/suppliers would be considered 'their money' in this equation, to the extent they can, they'll want to take all of those surpluses - exactly like other participants. Do you think their suppliers will sell for a dime less than they can? Will their customers pay a dollar more than they have to? Will management want to pay more than they have to? A Union is not a benevolent thing, it's just a power centre acting in it's own interest and that's it.