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The self-evaluation aspect is kind of beside the point. The core question is given a fixed amount of "attention", do you want to spend most of it staring forwar

The self-evaluation aspect is kind of beside the point. The core question is given a fixed amount of "attention", do you want to spend most of it staring forward to keep yourself in the lane and avoid rear-ending the next car? Current Tesla Autopilot does that particular task almost perfectly today, on highway at least.

romwell 5y ago
Given a fixed amount of attention, I do want to spend most of it on making sure my car is not about to crash into an obstacle, like another car, or highway divider. Because Tesla requires people to do that, as there are no guarantees that the autopilot won't [1]. [1] https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2020/02/25/ntsb-teslas-autopilot-steered-model-x-into-highway-median-causing-fatal-mountain-view-crash https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2020/02/25/ntsb-teslas-a...
- oliwary 5y ago
  This seems sensible, but I do wonder whether actively steering the car is as attention intensive as merely verifying that the car is steering correctly. This is pure speculation, but it feels like humans have a very robust model to determine when something is about to go wrong (i.e. this car is about to crash into an obstacle). If it takes less attention to determine that the car steers correctly as opposed to steering the car, this would leave more attention available to, for example, monitor other cars behavior.
  - mwint 5y ago
    It’s akin to sitting in the passenger seat of a car - you can be idly looking out the windshield, not really thinking about driving, and your brain will freak out the moment the driver doesn’t do what you expect. It’s like my brain always has a predicted path and velocity, and deviation from that is so easy for me to detect I do it subconsciously. Maybe other people aren’t like that, but I certainly am. I find myself wishing there was an FSD-like depiction of what’s going on in the driver’s brain, to answer the “you _are_ planning to stop eventually, right?” question.
  - romwell 5y ago
    >This seems sensible, but I do wonder whether actively steering the car is as attention intensive as merely verifying that the car is steering correctly. There is a lot of research explaining why it's true, particularly when it comes to piloting airplanes. The TL;DR is that doing something with your hands, involving touch, engages more of your brain. >This is pure speculation, but it feels like humans have a very robust model to determine when something is about to go wrong Yes, this is pure speculation, and also incorrect. Again, if you were to look things up instead of speculating, you'd quickly find plenty of information.
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romwell 5y ago

Given a fixed amount of attention, I do want to spend most of it on making sure my car is not about to crash into an obstacle, like another car, or highway divider. Because Tesla requires people to do that, as there are no guarantees that the autopilot won't [1]. [1] https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2020/02/25/ntsb-teslas-autopilot-steered-model-x-into-highway-median-causing-fatal-mountain-view-crash https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2020/02/25/ntsb-teslas-a...

oliwary 5y ago
This seems sensible, but I do wonder whether actively steering the car is as attention intensive as merely verifying that the car is steering correctly. This is pure speculation, but it feels like humans have a very robust model to determine when something is about to go wrong (i.e. this car is about to crash into an obstacle). If it takes less attention to determine that the car steers correctly as opposed to steering the car, this would leave more attention available to, for example, monitor other cars behavior.
- mwint 5y ago
  It’s akin to sitting in the passenger seat of a car - you can be idly looking out the windshield, not really thinking about driving, and your brain will freak out the moment the driver doesn’t do what you expect. It’s like my brain always has a predicted path and velocity, and deviation from that is so easy for me to detect I do it subconsciously. Maybe other people aren’t like that, but I certainly am. I find myself wishing there was an FSD-like depiction of what’s going on in the driver’s brain, to answer the “you _are_ planning to stop eventually, right?” question.
- romwell 5y ago
  >This seems sensible, but I do wonder whether actively steering the car is as attention intensive as merely verifying that the car is steering correctly. There is a lot of research explaining why it's true, particularly when it comes to piloting airplanes. The TL;DR is that doing something with your hands, involving touch, engages more of your brain. >This is pure speculation, but it feels like humans have a very robust model to determine when something is about to go wrong Yes, this is pure speculation, and also incorrect. Again, if you were to look things up instead of speculating, you'd quickly find plenty of information.
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