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I like the Framework laptops as well, but I think there's a problem I'm not sure is gonna work out in the end. If I understood it correctly, you can buy replac

I like the Framework laptops as well, but I think there's a problem I'm not sure is gonna work out in the end. If I understood it correctly, you can buy replacement parts only from Framework. They will have supply issues, and customers will be unhappy. I guess if the laptops don't ever break, or if the customers' need for replacement parts is more theoretical than real, it could work out. Or they somehow manage to get over the small, niche manufacturer hump and become a Lenovo with massive scale. I doubt that's gonna happen.

Nullabillity 5y ago
AFAIK they generally use the same industry standard interfaces for RAM/SSD/etc as all other non-shit laptops. The problem would come in if a Framework-specific part breaks, but at least those generally seem to be pretty simple (apart from the motherboard, at least).
ancientworldnow 5y ago
Some parts have to come from framework (keyboard, mobo, etc), but many do not (memory, storage, WiFi card, etc). They've also open sourced the modular components so people can develop their own third party compatible parts.
reificator 5y ago
> If I understood it correctly, you can buy replacement parts only from Framework. They will have supply issues, and customers will be unhappy. RAM, wireless, and storage aren't chained to Framework, and are effectively the only parts you can reasonably buy for any existing laptop in the current day. I would not be surprised if battery and screen replacements start popping up, but that's just a guess not something I'd bet on. That Framework will be the only suppliers of parts that other laptops don't even attempt to make replaceable is not a worrying situation, it's a hopeful one.
aembleton 5y ago
I haven't checked everything but the RAM looks like it is standard: "For memory, the Framework Laptop has two SO-DIMM sockets supporting DDR4 DRAM at up to DDR4-3200 speeds" https://frame.work/blog/storage-memory-and-wifi https://frame.work/blog/storage-memory-and-wifi

Nullabillity 5y ago

AFAIK they generally use the same industry standard interfaces for RAM/SSD/etc as all other non-shit laptops. The problem would come in if a Framework-specific part breaks, but at least those generally seem to be pretty simple (apart from the motherboard, at least).

ancientworldnow 5y ago

Some parts have to come from framework (keyboard, mobo, etc), but many do not (memory, storage, WiFi card, etc). They've also open sourced the modular components so people can develop their own third party compatible parts.

reificator 5y ago

> If I understood it correctly, you can buy replacement parts only from Framework. They will have supply issues, and customers will be unhappy. RAM, wireless, and storage aren't chained to Framework, and are effectively the only parts you can reasonably buy for any existing laptop in the current day. I would not be surprised if battery and screen replacements start popping up, but that's just a guess not something I'd bet on. That Framework will be the only suppliers of parts that other laptops don't even attempt to make replaceable is not a worrying situation, it's a hopeful one.

aembleton 5y ago

I haven't checked everything but the RAM looks like it is standard: "For memory, the Framework Laptop has two SO-DIMM sockets supporting DDR4 DRAM at up to DDR4-3200 speeds" https://frame.work/blog/storage-memory-and-wifi https://frame.work/blog/storage-memory-and-wifi