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Instead of it being "excuses for limiting features because of poor software" it's "withholding root access" now? So we are shifting goal posts?

asdff 5y ago
I'm not the GP but you mentioned general purpose computing device. All of these devices are general purpose computing devices in terms of the offered hardware and even the underlying software, the only thing stopping you from doing general purpose compute is the fact you aren't allowed to have root access to what is probably some unix OS running on the device. Imagine being able write your own scripts to run on your remarkable tablet and build your own features tailored to your own use cases, just like any laptop today. The only limitation is corporate policy rather than hardware or even software, both of these are capable of general purpose compute already.
- jsjohnst 5y ago
  > Imagine being able write your own scripts to run on your remarkable tablet You have actual root access to a reMarkable device by SSHing into it, so not sure your point here? Were you thinking it was a device locked down like an Apple product? More details: https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable
  - AshamedCaptain 5y ago
    You can SSH, but you can't even render anything to the screen without severe and fragile hacking around. A bit of "help" from RM (like a plugin system on the main stock app) would go a lot of the way.
    - jsjohnst 5y ago
      Thanks for continuing to shift goal posts and prove my point. I think you need to accept the product wasn’t designed for your needs. If you don’t like that, don’t buy it (or return it if you did).
      - AshamedCaptain 5y ago
        Please elaborate how complaining about the software being incomplete is "shifting the goal posts", and while you are at it also elaborate on how "well, just suck it up" is a valid counterargument.
        jsjohnst 5y ago
        > Please elaborate how complaining about the software being incomplete Did they sell you a device promising a vibrant app ecosystem? Did they tell you it was a general purpose web connected computer? No, they sell it as an electronic notepad with syncing capability. Just because you think that is an “incomplete” feature set doesn’t change the fact that what it’s sold to do it does, and does it moderately well. Are you the type of person who goes into a vegetarian restaurant and rails on them for having an “incomplete menu” because they don’t offer filet mignon cooked to your liking?
        AshamedCaptain 5y ago
        This is a very weak argument, since if I complain about the syncing being crap and wasting battery (which it does), then you'd just claim they sold me an "electronic notepad". If I complain about the electronic part having weak battery life, then you'd claim they're selling me a "notepad". We could basically go all day and progress nothing. It's not like you (or them) are the authority on what constitutes an "electronic notepad". This thing has more powerful hardware than most computers I've ever had in my life. Go and look for any Remarkable review. They all complain about the software being incomplete (expensive, lacks features, no apps, good for nothing else, etc.). Most people expected more and they lose sales because of it. We pay more because the hardware is way overpowered for what the software allows. Saying it's because "no distractions" is a cheap excuse.

asdff 5y ago

I'm not the GP but you mentioned general purpose computing device. All of these devices are general purpose computing devices in terms of the offered hardware and even the underlying software, the only thing stopping you from doing general purpose compute is the fact you aren't allowed to have root access to what is probably some unix OS running on the device. Imagine being able write your own scripts to run on your remarkable tablet and build your own features tailored to your own use cases, just like any laptop today. The only limitation is corporate policy rather than hardware or even software, both of these are capable of general purpose compute already.

jsjohnst 5y ago
> Imagine being able write your own scripts to run on your remarkable tablet You have actual root access to a reMarkable device by SSHing into it, so not sure your point here? Were you thinking it was a device locked down like an Apple product? More details: https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable
- AshamedCaptain 5y ago
  You can SSH, but you can't even render anything to the screen without severe and fragile hacking around. A bit of "help" from RM (like a plugin system on the main stock app) would go a lot of the way.
  - jsjohnst 5y ago
    Thanks for continuing to shift goal posts and prove my point. I think you need to accept the product wasn’t designed for your needs. If you don’t like that, don’t buy it (or return it if you did).
    - AshamedCaptain 5y ago
      Please elaborate how complaining about the software being incomplete is "shifting the goal posts", and while you are at it also elaborate on how "well, just suck it up" is a valid counterargument.
      - jsjohnst 5y ago
        > Please elaborate how complaining about the software being incomplete Did they sell you a device promising a vibrant app ecosystem? Did they tell you it was a general purpose web connected computer? No, they sell it as an electronic notepad with syncing capability. Just because you think that is an “incomplete” feature set doesn’t change the fact that what it’s sold to do it does, and does it moderately well. Are you the type of person who goes into a vegetarian restaurant and rails on them for having an “incomplete menu” because they don’t offer filet mignon cooked to your liking?
        AshamedCaptain 5y ago
        This is a very weak argument, since if I complain about the syncing being crap and wasting battery (which it does), then you'd just claim they sold me an "electronic notepad". If I complain about the electronic part having weak battery life, then you'd claim they're selling me a "notepad". We could basically go all day and progress nothing. It's not like you (or them) are the authority on what constitutes an "electronic notepad". This thing has more powerful hardware than most computers I've ever had in my life. Go and look for any Remarkable review. They all complain about the software being incomplete (expensive, lacks features, no apps, good for nothing else, etc.). Most people expected more and they lose sales because of it. We pay more because the hardware is way overpowered for what the software allows. Saying it's because "no distractions" is a cheap excuse.