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Newer laptops are starting to come with soldered SSDs. Macbooks have had non-standard or soldered SSDs for the past 5+ years. Framework is also proactively mak

Newer laptops are starting to come with soldered SSDs. Macbooks have had non-standard or soldered SSDs for the past 5+ years. Framework is also proactively making documentation, schematics, etc etc available for repair shops.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>Newer laptops are starting to come with soldered SSDs Which newer laptops? Other than Macs and crappy $199 Walmart grade tablet-chromebook thingamajigs, I don't know any mainstream PC laptop that does that (thankfully). Even super light and super slim laptops still have replaceable storage. Even niche Pocket Computers like the GPD and Valve Steam Deck still have replaceable SSDs. So I don't buy your statement.
- ixwt 5y ago
  If Macs are doing it, others are soon to follow. Apple has been a trend setter for years. They were belittled for getting rid of the 3.5mm jack, only for flag ship phones to begin doing so.
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    Soon when? Apple has been doing it for 5 years now and the rest of the industry hasn't even started. The truth is, unlike with RAM, it's still cheaper for the other laptop manufacturers to have a single motherboard SKU which they can later plug whatever cheap COTS SSDs they can get from various sources rather than waste effort tayloring a motherboard for a specific SSD controller, specific DRAM cache chips and specific Flash chips, as that gives them way less flexibility in component sourcing during production lifecycle and more expense in board design resulting in more expensive products with no extra margins for them. Apple can do this economically as they have a very tightly controlled supply chain with high volumes and due to the little variation in SKUs so they can just use the same SSD controller on all their products and just change the amount of Flash chips soldered on the board and call it a day.
NotPractical 5y ago
MacBooks also have glued in batteries.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

>Newer laptops are starting to come with soldered SSDs Which newer laptops? Other than Macs and crappy $199 Walmart grade tablet-chromebook thingamajigs, I don't know any mainstream PC laptop that does that (thankfully). Even super light and super slim laptops still have replaceable storage. Even niche Pocket Computers like the GPD and Valve Steam Deck still have replaceable SSDs. So I don't buy your statement.

ixwt 5y ago
If Macs are doing it, others are soon to follow. Apple has been a trend setter for years. They were belittled for getting rid of the 3.5mm jack, only for flag ship phones to begin doing so.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Soon when? Apple has been doing it for 5 years now and the rest of the industry hasn't even started. The truth is, unlike with RAM, it's still cheaper for the other laptop manufacturers to have a single motherboard SKU which they can later plug whatever cheap COTS SSDs they can get from various sources rather than waste effort tayloring a motherboard for a specific SSD controller, specific DRAM cache chips and specific Flash chips, as that gives them way less flexibility in component sourcing during production lifecycle and more expense in board design resulting in more expensive products with no extra margins for them. Apple can do this economically as they have a very tightly controlled supply chain with high volumes and due to the little variation in SKUs so they can just use the same SSD controller on all their products and just change the amount of Flash chips soldered on the board and call it a day.

NotPractical 5y ago

MacBooks also have glued in batteries.