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Why are you growing unhappy? (I have a X1 Extreme Gen 1, and Legion 7, and Legion 5 Pro, so I'm curious)

renke1 5y ago
A few things. The newer TrackPoint caps are not good. I actually had to order some 3D printed one from some Japanese guy. Also my Thinkpad T14 is throttling to the extent that I had to install tools [1] (?) that fix this problem. Battery seems to be bad as well. Intel by the way, I wanted to have Thunderbolt for an eGPU. [1]: https://github.com/erpalma/throttled https://github.com/erpalma/throttled
- philliphaydon 5y ago
  Work gave me a dell XPS last year. I had it for a Week and gave it back because when I turned it on. The fans spin full throttle. And the laptop still throttled itself. So I use my X1E for work. The nipple is as good but it’s flat for the thin profile. I upgraded all 3 laptops with more or better ram, wifi, and ssds. And currently ordering a Traditional Chinese keyboard for the L5P for the wifey. But I took AMD for the legions.
  - renke1 5y ago
    I regret not opting for the Ryzen variant, but I really wanted to replace my old desktop computer for the occasional gaming session (although they are rare these days) and hence the need for Thunderbolt.
- matthewn 5y ago
  > I actually had to order some 3D printed one from some Japanese guy Thank you for mentioning this alternative! Just found him on Etsy. I have always preferred the old-style concave nibs for TrackPoints over the new convex ones. This will be a serious improvement for my Thinkpad.
  - renke1 5y ago
    It's an improvement but they are not as good as the old ones which were slightly larger. I still use one of those on my external Thinkpad keyboard.
soperj 5y ago
Soldered Ram.
- philliphaydon 5y ago
  Oh so dependent on the actual model not ThinkPads themselves.
  - soperj 5y ago
    As far as I've seen nearly all of them have Soldered ram now. Can you point to some that don't?
    - rhblake 5y ago
      Some of the latest models in the "classic" lines with one or more RAM slots: P14s Gen 2 AMD/Intel (a.k.a. T14 Gen 2 AMD/Intel); T15 Gen 2 / P15s Gen 2; P15 Gen 2; T15p Gen 2; P1 Gen 4; X1 Extreme Gen 4. Plus some of the slightly more "budget" ones like L14 Gen 2 AMD/Intel and E14 Gen 3 AMD. Tip: search "<model name> psref" to quickly get to a PDF with specifications.
orthecreedence 5y ago
Bundled spyware. That's why I swore off Lenovo.
- renke1 5y ago
  I've bought it without any OS installed. But of course the general practice may be good reason to avoid Lenovo (if you can live without a TrackPoint, that is).
  - orthecreedence 5y ago
    Joke's on you, the spyware was in the bootloader =]

A few things. The newer TrackPoint caps are not good. I actually had to order some 3D printed one from some Japanese guy. Also my Thinkpad T14 is throttling to the extent that I had to install tools [1] (?) that fix this problem. Battery seems to be bad as well. Intel by the way, I wanted to have Thunderbolt for an eGPU. [1]: https://github.com/erpalma/throttled https://github.com/erpalma/throttled

philliphaydon 5y ago
Work gave me a dell XPS last year. I had it for a Week and gave it back because when I turned it on. The fans spin full throttle. And the laptop still throttled itself. So I use my X1E for work. The nipple is as good but it’s flat for the thin profile. I upgraded all 3 laptops with more or better ram, wifi, and ssds. And currently ordering a Traditional Chinese keyboard for the L5P for the wifey. But I took AMD for the legions.
- renke1 5y ago
  I regret not opting for the Ryzen variant, but I really wanted to replace my old desktop computer for the occasional gaming session (although they are rare these days) and hence the need for Thunderbolt.
matthewn 5y ago
> I actually had to order some 3D printed one from some Japanese guy Thank you for mentioning this alternative! Just found him on Etsy. I have always preferred the old-style concave nibs for TrackPoints over the new convex ones. This will be a serious improvement for my Thinkpad.
- renke1 5y ago
  It's an improvement but they are not as good as the old ones which were slightly larger. I still use one of those on my external Thinkpad keyboard.

soperj 5y ago

Soldered Ram.

philliphaydon 5y ago
Oh so dependent on the actual model not ThinkPads themselves.
- soperj 5y ago
  As far as I've seen nearly all of them have Soldered ram now. Can you point to some that don't?
  - rhblake 5y ago
    Some of the latest models in the "classic" lines with one or more RAM slots: P14s Gen 2 AMD/Intel (a.k.a. T14 Gen 2 AMD/Intel); T15 Gen 2 / P15s Gen 2; P15 Gen 2; T15p Gen 2; P1 Gen 4; X1 Extreme Gen 4. Plus some of the slightly more "budget" ones like L14 Gen 2 AMD/Intel and E14 Gen 3 AMD. Tip: search "<model name> psref" to quickly get to a PDF with specifications.

orthecreedence 5y ago

Bundled spyware. That's why I swore off Lenovo.

renke1 5y ago
I've bought it without any OS installed. But of course the general practice may be good reason to avoid Lenovo (if you can live without a TrackPoint, that is).
- orthecreedence 5y ago
  Joke's on you, the spyware was in the bootloader =]