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Same here but for fan noise. Since I've gotten the m1 macbook air, I don't think I can go back to a laptop that runs hot and needs a fan. In the event that I m

Same here but for fan noise. Since I've gotten the m1 macbook air, I don't think I can go back to a laptop that runs hot and needs a fan. In the event that I must get a non-m1 laptop, I can definitely see myself buying the framework laptop and putting ubuntu on it.

webmobdev 5y ago
I've never met someone before that cares about cpu fan noise. Genuinely. It never bothers me so I have never thought about it. Perhaps also because my workflow involves playing music when I work to make me more productive.
- soperj 5y ago
  They likely used apple for a long time before this, and they had a ton of fan noise. So likely wasn't an issue previously.
  - speedgoose 5y ago
    Getting a noise less and fast laptop is a good improvement. It's like going from a fossil car to an electric one. So much less noise and vibrations. The noise is acceptable but it's annoying to go back.
    - soperj 5y ago
      As someone who bikes, electric cars make a lot of noise still when they're not going under 10km/hr.
- dinkleberg 5y ago
  As someone who records lots of videos it is quite frustrating. The less noise the better.
- FullyFunctional 5y ago
  My MacBooks have generally been quiet, but not silent. Having lived with the M1 MacBook Air since it came out, I _never_ want to go back to a fan. Silence is a luxury.
- sagarm 5y ago
  The pre-M1 MacBook Air fan kicks in a lot and produces a lot of noise compared to other laptops IMO.
smoldesu 5y ago
It's a shame ARM isn't quite a first-class desktop architecture quite yet. I'd probably use one if my software ran on it. Otherwise, I figure in 10-15 years, when it is "fully featured," the architecture will have already been usurped by RISC-V.
Joeri 5y ago
Same here. I went from a thinkpad to an m1 air, and although the noise wasn’t something that bothered me before, I do appreciate its absence now. The battery life also is a big draw. I can go to the office without a charger, and it’s not a problem. I’ve never had a laptop that made it past half a workday.
deadmutex 5y ago
Ehn.. I used to be like you. Once I used Pixelbook, a superthin fanless device, I was in awe. Pixelbook Go was similar fanless device as well. But, then I realized that they have their limitations. With a fan, one can achieve much better performance when needed. So, now, I prefer a laptop that can passively cool for normal day to day work, and then for heavy workloads take advantage of the fan. I got the framework laptop, which should be able to push the intel chip to the max 28 TDP. I heard the fan is big, and thus not annoying. I am curious to see how it will turn out (My batch 3 order gets delivered tomorrow).
- collinvandyck76 5y ago
  Yeah I guess I don't have a ton of experience here outside of mac laptops, but the idea of a PC laptop that only kicks in the fans when truly intensive tasks are being run sounds pretty nice. My experience has mostly been that when any work is being done, the fans spin up. It's jarring when you're trying to focus on the problem at hand.
  - deadmutex 5y ago
    Some PCs let you configure the fan curves. I have never done that though.
  - mhitza 5y ago
    You need to find your fan rpm/noise threshold. On my laptop the fan becomes noticeable above 2500rpm. Someone commented about adjusting the fan curve (I have no idea how), I just manually capped the CPU performance with a powersave profile instead.
- kzrdude 5y ago
  You're right about cooling for intel/amd, with the note that the M1 is a whole different beast - it can deliver good performance with only passive cooling anyway

webmobdev 5y ago

I've never met someone before that cares about cpu fan noise. Genuinely. It never bothers me so I have never thought about it. Perhaps also because my workflow involves playing music when I work to make me more productive.

soperj 5y ago
They likely used apple for a long time before this, and they had a ton of fan noise. So likely wasn't an issue previously.
- speedgoose 5y ago
  Getting a noise less and fast laptop is a good improvement. It's like going from a fossil car to an electric one. So much less noise and vibrations. The noise is acceptable but it's annoying to go back.
  - soperj 5y ago
    As someone who bikes, electric cars make a lot of noise still when they're not going under 10km/hr.
dinkleberg 5y ago
As someone who records lots of videos it is quite frustrating. The less noise the better.
FullyFunctional 5y ago
My MacBooks have generally been quiet, but not silent. Having lived with the M1 MacBook Air since it came out, I _never_ want to go back to a fan. Silence is a luxury.
sagarm 5y ago
The pre-M1 MacBook Air fan kicks in a lot and produces a lot of noise compared to other laptops IMO.

smoldesu 5y ago

It's a shame ARM isn't quite a first-class desktop architecture quite yet. I'd probably use one if my software ran on it. Otherwise, I figure in 10-15 years, when it is "fully featured," the architecture will have already been usurped by RISC-V.

Joeri 5y ago

Same here. I went from a thinkpad to an m1 air, and although the noise wasn’t something that bothered me before, I do appreciate its absence now. The battery life also is a big draw. I can go to the office without a charger, and it’s not a problem. I’ve never had a laptop that made it past half a workday.

deadmutex 5y ago

Ehn.. I used to be like you. Once I used Pixelbook, a superthin fanless device, I was in awe. Pixelbook Go was similar fanless device as well. But, then I realized that they have their limitations. With a fan, one can achieve much better performance when needed. So, now, I prefer a laptop that can passively cool for normal day to day work, and then for heavy workloads take advantage of the fan. I got the framework laptop, which should be able to push the intel chip to the max 28 TDP. I heard the fan is big, and thus not annoying. I am curious to see how it will turn out (My batch 3 order gets delivered tomorrow).

collinvandyck76 5y ago
Yeah I guess I don't have a ton of experience here outside of mac laptops, but the idea of a PC laptop that only kicks in the fans when truly intensive tasks are being run sounds pretty nice. My experience has mostly been that when any work is being done, the fans spin up. It's jarring when you're trying to focus on the problem at hand.
- deadmutex 5y ago
  Some PCs let you configure the fan curves. I have never done that though.
- mhitza 5y ago
  You need to find your fan rpm/noise threshold. On my laptop the fan becomes noticeable above 2500rpm. Someone commented about adjusting the fan curve (I have no idea how), I just manually capped the CPU performance with a powersave profile instead.
kzrdude 5y ago
You're right about cooling for intel/amd, with the note that the M1 is a whole different beast - it can deliver good performance with only passive cooling anyway