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Cool, but why isn't the CPU bring-your-own?
by Pr0ject217 5y ago
Cool, but why isn't the CPU bring-your-own?
- wheybags 5y agoBecause they are BGA chips designed to be soldered on, and most people do not have the capacity to do that at home.
- bserge 5y agoAnd why are they BGA chips these days? That's the real problem. Did mobile CPUs somehow advance past desktop ones while I wasn't looking?
- quocanh 5y agoOf course they have! Take a look at ARM. Or Apple's M1 chip. It's crazy what mobile CPUs can do nowadays.
- bserge 5y agoAnd look at a Ryzen with an integrated GPU. Wow, it has pins and fits in a socket, it's a miracle!
- cultofmetatron 5y agopower efficiency? saving weight?
- Matthias247 5y agoAny kind of socket would require additional height. Probably at least 5mm. And you would certainly want to avoid that on mobile devices. For memory thats less of a problem, because you can plug it from the side, but CPUs have way more pins, so that won't work.
- bserge 5y agoYeah, the usual. Same reason used for everything soldered and non replaceable keyboards.
- foxfluff 5y agoProbably to shave off the cost (and volume) of a socket.
- paleogizmo 5y agoI don't think that mobile CPUs are available socketed
- bserge 5y agoWell, not anymore. What a fucking travesty. And note how this laptop has removable DDR4 SODIMM sticks! I couldn't believe it when people were arguing that's impossible because signal pathways or some shit (too many laptops have it soldered these days).
- wlesieutre 5y agoI think that argument has been applied to LPDDR4, which is what most laptops use now in pursuit of battery life
- bserge 5y agoOh yeah, I always forget they're different. Anyway, soldered = dead to me.
- not1ofU 5y agoThere is an answer to that question in this video: "Responding to your comments on the Framework investment" - One of LTT channels Surprisingly NSFW, because they show a clip from Louis Rossman's Video talking about Linus' investment (its pretty funny, because it was Live) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7f3DTDsocA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7f3DTDsocA
- AnEro 5y agoThey also offer instructions to update that for when you need to upgrade that. It's not bring your own but still upgradable, which is what I care about, especially with a smaller company obviously trying to keep everything ethics of repairability.
- downWidOutaFite 5y agoEven in desktops it feels like socket+chipset is becoming more and more tied to specific CPU so that you need to swap the motherboard and the cpu together.