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If anyone is interested, Sonic Visualizer with it's vamp plugins is pretty state of the art when it comes to analyzing music. The Chordino NNLS Chroma plugin, f

If anyone is interested, Sonic Visualizer with it's vamp plugins is pretty state of the art when it comes to analyzing music. The Chordino NNLS Chroma plugin, for instance, can extract even jazz chords fairly accurately

gavinray 5y ago
I've also heard this about Sonic Visualizer + vamp plugins Could anyone familiar with this area recommend more tools like the original post and these? Would really appreciate it.
- glouwbug 5y ago
  All I can say is that I don't really look for sheet music anymore, or guitar tabs / chords. When I find interesting music on youtube I just use youtube-dl and Sonic Visualizer / NLS-chroma and jam along. It's upped my song writing abilities and general understanding and feel for music tremendously
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Total gamechanger. Between this, Bitwig and PipeWire, I think Linux can really be my full-time studio choice.
  - iamcreasy 5y ago
    I don't know much about signal processing or music theory. Can you give me a ELI5 version of your process and outcome?
chris_st 5y ago
Interesting! I just signed up for Chordify [0], which does extraction of chords from YouTube videos, and then plays them while you play along to either a grid of chords, or an animation showing the current chord and the next ones coming up. Has chord diagrams for Guitar, Ukulele, and Piano. Really nice, frequently accurate (it's not perfect :-). [0] https://chordify.net/ https://chordify.net/
- pantulis 5y ago
  There is also the free Yamaha Chord Tracker app (just checked, it still works on iOS15)
- IndySun 5y ago
  Chordify is great, but for some reason the chords are displayed late when running along side the youtube video. A simple timed delay would improve this frustrating quirk, but it hasn't been fixed in years.m It's certainly as accurate as most.
  - chris_st 5y ago
    I have noticed it's late/early sometimes, but it appears to me to be mostly on time. Note: I'm not an expert by any means.
- loxias 5y ago
  Is there a market for "mathematically superior" tools similar to this? I've been developing this sort of math for more than half my life, and would love to "productize" it. I just never thought there'd be a market... I wonder how many paying customers Chordify has.
  - eointierney 5y ago
    Go for it. Let your users make your market, you should just make a great tool/service. If you're better than the competition you should be profitable, and if your maths is better you're better than the competition. I would pay for it. More importantly I would use it. Not everything has to have a price as long as everything has a value. It's funny because I was trying to sing a melody into Musescore just the other day and had to apply a bit of Audacity and then remember theory from secondary school to make it work. My middle-age voice sounds different to a computer than to my ears. If you could make this easy and accurate you would do every amateur song-writer on this earth a huge favor, though maybe not every amateur listener :)
nebula8804 5y ago
Is there any plugin that would give some interesting information to a newbie who has no idea what he is looking at? I was trying various plugins on this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__Z-UpU01U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__Z-UpU01U But so far none of the vamp plugins seem to be showing anything interesting. (I have tried a random handful) EDIT: The spectrum view is fascinating. I can see a little bit of additional information on the edges on the Flac vs a MP3. Is there a plugin that can separate the instruments?

gavinray 5y ago

I've also heard this about Sonic Visualizer + vamp plugins Could anyone familiar with this area recommend more tools like the original post and these? Would really appreciate it.

glouwbug 5y ago
All I can say is that I don't really look for sheet music anymore, or guitar tabs / chords. When I find interesting music on youtube I just use youtube-dl and Sonic Visualizer / NLS-chroma and jam along. It's upped my song writing abilities and general understanding and feel for music tremendously
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Total gamechanger. Between this, Bitwig and PipeWire, I think Linux can really be my full-time studio choice.
- iamcreasy 5y ago
  I don't know much about signal processing or music theory. Can you give me a ELI5 version of your process and outcome?

chris_st 5y ago

Interesting! I just signed up for Chordify [0], which does extraction of chords from YouTube videos, and then plays them while you play along to either a grid of chords, or an animation showing the current chord and the next ones coming up. Has chord diagrams for Guitar, Ukulele, and Piano. Really nice, frequently accurate (it's not perfect :-). [0] https://chordify.net/ https://chordify.net/

pantulis 5y ago
There is also the free Yamaha Chord Tracker app (just checked, it still works on iOS15)
IndySun 5y ago
Chordify is great, but for some reason the chords are displayed late when running along side the youtube video. A simple timed delay would improve this frustrating quirk, but it hasn't been fixed in years.m It's certainly as accurate as most.
- chris_st 5y ago
  I have noticed it's late/early sometimes, but it appears to me to be mostly on time. Note: I'm not an expert by any means.
loxias 5y ago
Is there a market for "mathematically superior" tools similar to this? I've been developing this sort of math for more than half my life, and would love to "productize" it. I just never thought there'd be a market... I wonder how many paying customers Chordify has.
- eointierney 5y ago
  Go for it. Let your users make your market, you should just make a great tool/service. If you're better than the competition you should be profitable, and if your maths is better you're better than the competition. I would pay for it. More importantly I would use it. Not everything has to have a price as long as everything has a value. It's funny because I was trying to sing a melody into Musescore just the other day and had to apply a bit of Audacity and then remember theory from secondary school to make it work. My middle-age voice sounds different to a computer than to my ears. If you could make this easy and accurate you would do every amateur song-writer on this earth a huge favor, though maybe not every amateur listener :)

nebula8804 5y ago

Is there any plugin that would give some interesting information to a newbie who has no idea what he is looking at? I was trying various plugins on this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__Z-UpU01U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__Z-UpU01U But so far none of the vamp plugins seem to be showing anything interesting. (I have tried a random handful) EDIT: The spectrum view is fascinating. I can see a little bit of additional information on the edges on the Flac vs a MP3. Is there a plugin that can separate the instruments?