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Working to fix things in the long run. I don't see an issue here.
by AlexAndScripts 5y ago
Working to fix things in the long run. I don't see an issue here.
- aqme28 5y agoUnsuccessfully though. In the end this just added harm with no benefit.
- AlexAndScripts 5y agoYeah, and that's a shame. Hindsight is 20/20. At the end of the day though, they couldn't have known that would happen, and they made the right choice. The Kaseya hack was terrible - they were trying to stop that happening again.
- aqme28 5y ago> they made the right choice You can't say that definitively. It seems unethical and incorrect to me.
- superjan 5y agoThey had to make the choice with the info available at that time. And exposing and prosecuting ransomware criminals could help to prevent future cases: The perpetrators are techies who are not street thugs, they could make money with legit work.
- aqme28 5y agoI agree with everything you wrote, but I don't see how any of it proves that they made the "correct decision."
- AlexAndScripts 5y agoI suppose its subjective. In my opinion their job is to protect a whole nation (and, on a larger scale, the West)'s interests in the long run. If that means delaying the release of encryption keys in order to prevent future attacks, I think that's a worthy tradeoff. And even if the tradeoff didn't end up worth it (due to no fault of their own), their actions at the time were in my opinion entirely reasonable.
- vorpalhex 5y agoIt's unethical to allow harm to fall upon innocent people to stop a bad person.
- babypuncher 5y agoIt's not that clear cut. This is just a variation of the trolley problem.
- djoldman 5y agoThis quickly devolves into killing one person to save 5... it's a difficult question.
- beerandt 5y agoMore like definitely killing 5 people to maybe catch a murder.
- AlexAndScripts 5y agoMore like killing 1 to probably save 5. They aren't going to stop at Kaseya.
- AlexAndScripts 5y agoThat's just the trolley problem, as other commenters have said. This whole debate is, which is a shame, because it means we're unlikely to convince each other.
- vorpalhex 5y agoThis is not a trolley problem. The trolley problem has two assured outcomes - both leading to harm - and requires active intervention to choose the lower harm. This has definitive harm for a potential gain against future potential harm, versus stopping an active harm at no direct real cost. It's a bird in hand versus two in the bush. You can't use people in wagers like that.