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I know nothing about guns, but assuming someone is walking at a typical pace, what kind of latency would you need for a robot to actually (remotely control and)

I know nothing about guns, but assuming someone is walking at a typical pace, what kind of latency would you need for a robot to actually (remotely control and) shoot someone via a robot?

walrus01 5y ago
I think a lot would depend on whether the target was approaching you in a near linear straight line, or traveling sideways across your field of view in azimuth. As described in the NY times article it sounds like the gun was set up to shoot straight down the road into the windshield of the approaching car.
jeffreyrogers 5y ago
The article says there was a 1.6 second delay between what the operator saw and what the gun saw, but it's going to depend a lot on distance and angle.
jhauris 5y ago
The article mentions a 1.6 second transmission delay. You can imagine how much someone could potentially move in 1.6 seconds, regardless of other factors. Distance is the largest normal factor, and is not mentioned in the article. Under 100 meters bullet drop and time to target are negligible; with a stabilized rifle (as in this case), it would just be a matter of putting the crosshairs over the target. The communications latency, however, would make even such a short shot extremely challenging. I wonder how the AI mentioned compensated for that. They imply the vehicle may have been moving during the shot. So during a 1.6 second (presumably round trip) delay, you would need to account for movement of the vehicle during that time, movement of the target during that time, movement of the target after firing (for longer distances), wind effects on the bullet (for longer distances), and bullet drop (usually trivial, but still). I don't know what kind of help the AI provided, but I wouldn't want to be the one with my hand on the button (normal ethical questions of assassination aside).

2 ms·

I know nothing about guns, but assuming someone is walking at a typical pace, what kind of latency would you need for a robot to actually (remotely control and)

by endisneigh 5y ago

I know nothing about guns, but assuming someone is walking at a typical pace, what kind of latency would you need for a robot to actually (remotely control and) shoot someone via a robot?

walrus01 5y ago
I think a lot would depend on whether the target was approaching you in a near linear straight line, or traveling sideways across your field of view in azimuth. As described in the NY times article it sounds like the gun was set up to shoot straight down the road into the windshield of the approaching car.
jeffreyrogers 5y ago
The article says there was a 1.6 second delay between what the operator saw and what the gun saw, but it's going to depend a lot on distance and angle.
jhauris 5y ago
The article mentions a 1.6 second transmission delay. You can imagine how much someone could potentially move in 1.6 seconds, regardless of other factors. Distance is the largest normal factor, and is not mentioned in the article. Under 100 meters bullet drop and time to target are negligible; with a stabilized rifle (as in this case), it would just be a matter of putting the crosshairs over the target. The communications latency, however, would make even such a short shot extremely challenging. I wonder how the AI mentioned compensated for that. They imply the vehicle may have been moving during the shot. So during a 1.6 second (presumably round trip) delay, you would need to account for movement of the vehicle during that time, movement of the target during that time, movement of the target after firing (for longer distances), wind effects on the bullet (for longer distances), and bullet drop (usually trivial, but still). I don't know what kind of help the AI provided, but I wouldn't want to be the one with my hand on the button (normal ethical questions of assassination aside).