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The whole paper is definitely worth reading. The methods they've used to rule out everything else then a meteor blast. Or the microphotograph of bone with embed

by yread 5y ago

The whole paper is definitely worth reading. The methods they've used to rule out everything else then a meteor blast. Or the microphotograph of bone with embedded molten glass

koheripbal 5y ago
The quartz shocking was a bit weak as it wasn't clear how they dated it to the same time as the theoretical blast - similarly for the other metal deposits found. This made their other arguments a little weaker as we as it reduced the temperature evidenced to just that of the melted bricks - which makes it possible that what they found was evidence of contemporary furnaces and/or other fire events/war/etc. Still pretty compelling overall. I understand they theorize an airburst, but I wonder if it would be possible to find a "ground zero" for the explosion, and thus more direct evidence.
- SiempreViernes 5y ago
  > The quartz shocking was a bit weak as it wasn't clear how they dated it to the same time as the theoretical blast They found it in the rubble layer they are studying? How would it get there if it wasn't produced at the same time as the rest of the stuff in that layer? For things in a sediment layer to not be of equal age, you need some sort of transport mechanism to move the quartz there from some earlier or later period, and there's not much convective motion in dirt.
  - gred 5y ago
    Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratigraphy_(archaeology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratigraphy_(archaeology)
pyinstallwoes 5y ago
I'll take a glance as I'm wondering if they included the possibility of a weapon. Although technically, a meteor could be a weapon with a sufficiently proper setup. A cosmic Slingshot.
- King-Aaron 5y ago
  > In summary, although man-made explosives and atomic bombs can account for an extreme range of damage to humans, they can be ruled out because of the age of the site.
  - pyinstallwoes 5y ago
    Why is that sufficient grounds to be ruled out? All it would suggest is that our history is not in accordance with reality if it were true.
    - satisfice 5y ago
      If you can’t rule something out because it goes against everything else we know, then you can’t rule anything out, ever, for any reason. If you don’t respect consistency and prior probability, then causality itself breaks down, and I’m wondering how exactly do you feed yourself and cross streets safely. Unless you know perfectly well how reasoning works and you just don’t apply that when you comment on science articles.
      - pyinstallwoes 5y ago
        It doesn't go against everything else we know, it goes against whatever narrative is spun for everything we know. I know how to cross the street safely because I have first hand experience with it. Nobody living has first-hand experience with history.
- narrator 5y ago
  Somebody's been watching Starship Troopers.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Like what? With this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agneya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agneya ? The same way some people say what happened to Mohenjo Daro?

by yread 5y ago

The whole paper is definitely worth reading. The methods they've used to rule out everything else then a meteor blast. Or the microphotograph of bone with embedded molten glass

koheripbal 5y ago

The quartz shocking was a bit weak as it wasn't clear how they dated it to the same time as the theoretical blast - similarly for the other metal deposits found. This made their other arguments a little weaker as we as it reduced the temperature evidenced to just that of the melted bricks - which makes it possible that what they found was evidence of contemporary furnaces and/or other fire events/war/etc. Still pretty compelling overall. I understand they theorize an airburst, but I wonder if it would be possible to find a "ground zero" for the explosion, and thus more direct evidence.

SiempreViernes 5y ago
> The quartz shocking was a bit weak as it wasn't clear how they dated it to the same time as the theoretical blast They found it in the rubble layer they are studying? How would it get there if it wasn't produced at the same time as the rest of the stuff in that layer? For things in a sediment layer to not be of equal age, you need some sort of transport mechanism to move the quartz there from some earlier or later period, and there's not much convective motion in dirt.
- gred 5y ago
  Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratigraphy_(archaeology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratigraphy_(archaeology)

pyinstallwoes 5y ago

I'll take a glance as I'm wondering if they included the possibility of a weapon. Although technically, a meteor could be a weapon with a sufficiently proper setup. A cosmic Slingshot.

King-Aaron 5y ago
> In summary, although man-made explosives and atomic bombs can account for an extreme range of damage to humans, they can be ruled out because of the age of the site.
- pyinstallwoes 5y ago
  Why is that sufficient grounds to be ruled out? All it would suggest is that our history is not in accordance with reality if it were true.
  - satisfice 5y ago
    If you can’t rule something out because it goes against everything else we know, then you can’t rule anything out, ever, for any reason. If you don’t respect consistency and prior probability, then causality itself breaks down, and I’m wondering how exactly do you feed yourself and cross streets safely. Unless you know perfectly well how reasoning works and you just don’t apply that when you comment on science articles.
    - pyinstallwoes 5y ago
      It doesn't go against everything else we know, it goes against whatever narrative is spun for everything we know. I know how to cross the street safely because I have first hand experience with it. Nobody living has first-hand experience with history.
narrator 5y ago
Somebody's been watching Starship Troopers.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Like what? With this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agneya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agneya ? The same way some people say what happened to Mohenjo Daro?