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It seems like this is essentially the same technology, but they use the "needs to follow a bike" property to deal with the fact that your proposed AI trailer li

by ohazi 5y ago

It seems like this is essentially the same technology, but they use the "needs to follow a bike" property to deal with the fact that your proposed AI trailer likely wouldn't be street legal, and also as an easy way to deter vandalism or theft.

jjoonathan 5y ago
A car fully solves all of these problems simultaneously.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Way to miss the point. I've been without a car for about 18 months now. Yes, I miss having a car, but I don't miss payments, insurance, or maintenance. I've dealt with small grocery runs with my pedal bike, but it has limitations. Delivery fees have just become part of my budget, but those fees still do not add up to a car payment or insurance fees. As much as I miss my last car, I'm not ready to jump into that level of commitment again any time soon.
  - jjoonathan 5y ago
    Way to miss the point. Any niche between cars and bikes has to compete with both cars and bikes -- and you can aggregate things into cars to get utilization up, as you have discovered by paying for delivery. Bike infrastructure is underdeveloped. Car infrastructure is not, and cars are good at cargo. Shifting cargo-hauling duty onto bike infrastructure is a great way to put bike infrastructure overcapacity, but not a great way to haul cargo. We should reserve bike infrastructure for people, because getting people out of cars and onto bikes is where the magic happens. Turning bikes into small cars -- which is where this idea is clearly headed -- is gross.
- furyg3 5y ago
  A whole lot of city dwellers, especially outside the US, don't have a license. On top of this they may be wishing to get stuff to/from places that aren't very accessible by car, and additionally rental car prices are heavily determined by the price of the vehicle, the operating costs, and maintenance. The numbers on something like this are much lower than on a van.
- b3morales 5y ago
  ...while creating several others.
yarcob 5y ago
> that your proposed AI trailer likely wouldn't be street legal I see this statement all the time (that legal issues are holding AI back) but I'm pretty sure the legal issues could be fixed pretty quickly if there actually were self driving things. In this case, if you look at the videos it doesn't look like this trailer is doing anything smart at all, it just accelerates/breaks when you pull/push on the draw bar.
- wongarsu 5y ago
  > In this case, if you look at the videos it doesn't look like this trailer is doing anything smart at all, it just accelerates/breaks when you pull/push on the draw bar. Seems like a smart solution to the problem "I want to transport stuff, but bike trailers are too heavy"

by ohazi 5y ago

jjoonathan 5y ago

A car fully solves all of these problems simultaneously.

dylan604 5y ago
Way to miss the point. I've been without a car for about 18 months now. Yes, I miss having a car, but I don't miss payments, insurance, or maintenance. I've dealt with small grocery runs with my pedal bike, but it has limitations. Delivery fees have just become part of my budget, but those fees still do not add up to a car payment or insurance fees. As much as I miss my last car, I'm not ready to jump into that level of commitment again any time soon.
- jjoonathan 5y ago
  Way to miss the point. Any niche between cars and bikes has to compete with both cars and bikes -- and you can aggregate things into cars to get utilization up, as you have discovered by paying for delivery. Bike infrastructure is underdeveloped. Car infrastructure is not, and cars are good at cargo. Shifting cargo-hauling duty onto bike infrastructure is a great way to put bike infrastructure overcapacity, but not a great way to haul cargo. We should reserve bike infrastructure for people, because getting people out of cars and onto bikes is where the magic happens. Turning bikes into small cars -- which is where this idea is clearly headed -- is gross.
furyg3 5y ago
A whole lot of city dwellers, especially outside the US, don't have a license. On top of this they may be wishing to get stuff to/from places that aren't very accessible by car, and additionally rental car prices are heavily determined by the price of the vehicle, the operating costs, and maintenance. The numbers on something like this are much lower than on a van.
b3morales 5y ago
...while creating several others.

yarcob 5y ago

> that your proposed AI trailer likely wouldn't be street legal I see this statement all the time (that legal issues are holding AI back) but I'm pretty sure the legal issues could be fixed pretty quickly if there actually were self driving things. In this case, if you look at the videos it doesn't look like this trailer is doing anything smart at all, it just accelerates/breaks when you pull/push on the draw bar.

wongarsu 5y ago
> In this case, if you look at the videos it doesn't look like this trailer is doing anything smart at all, it just accelerates/breaks when you pull/push on the draw bar. Seems like a smart solution to the problem "I want to transport stuff, but bike trailers are too heavy"