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The second link doesn't say booster shots won't be needed down the road, they say they aren't needed now. Both articles are consistent with booster shots being
by simonh 5y ago
The second link doesn't say booster shots won't be needed down the road, they say they aren't needed now. Both articles are consistent with booster shots being needed down the road. The question is really about timing when the booster shots need to be given.
Places like Israel that immunised large swathes of population very early are already seeing signs of waning effectiveness and are planning to give booster shots in the near term. In the UK we're also in the same boat. Early vaccination has transformed life here, with low death rates despite high transmission. The protection the vaccine gives is providing us with massive benefits. It looks like boosters for older people going into winter make sense.
In the US that's not as clear. Vaccination has become a bitterly contested right vs left issue, in a way that it just isn't in Europe. Our Conservative government in Britain has been at the front line of pushing through a massively successful vaccination campaign, with broad cross party support for the strategy overall. There's plenty of political credit to go around. The contrast with the US couldn't be more stark.
I think the Biden booster plan looks ill advised, but at least he's not talking his voters into getting them or their loved ones killed or crippled by this thing. I'm sitting here, a fully vaccinated British conservative, watching interviews with dying patients in US hospitals saying they didn't get vaccinated because they are conservatives, wondering how things could have gone so horribly wrong.
- the_doctah 5y ago>saying they didn't get vaccinated because they are conservatives, wondering how things could have gone so horribly wrong. There's an entire subreddit dedicated to this and the patterns of behavior from these people become clear pretty quickly. They think prayers are more effective than vaccines.
- chinathrow 5y agoIt's truly maddening. I have friends who refuse to get vaxxed and claim everyone will get it and those who die from it "that's just life".
- simonh 5y agoThe ones I've seen said it was because they are conservatives or republicans specifically, not because they were religious. It wouldn't surprise me if there's both though. But yes there clearly is a religious dimension to this, which again there just isn't at all over here in Europe bar some fringe cults. But it's the political affiliation that seems to be the defining factor. I know there's been an anti-vax movement, but as far as I'm aware that wasn't a mainstream Christian position across the evangelical landscape in the US. Fringe yes, but a tiny fraction of the levels we're seeing for covid.