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It's difficult to find examples because obviously Google Streetview cars don't enter pure bike paths, but here is one of these paths where you won't make friend

It's difficult to find examples because obviously Google Streetview cars don't enter pure bike paths, but here is one of these paths where you won't make friends with a somewhat broader and faster electric personal transport device [0]. A better example and one where I did ride around on an e-chopper, annoying people on bikes ;) [1] (not me in the image). These small path are pretty common in nature reserves here [2]. [0]: https://goo.gl/maps/yZXH4ggVQ6vXRcNy9 https://goo.gl/maps/yZXH4ggVQ6vXRcNy9 [1]: https://weekendtoerist.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/mooiste-plekken-drents-friese-wold-fietsroute-13.jpg https://weekendtoerist.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/mooiste... [2]: https://www.myfootprints.nl/nederland/fietsen-en-wandelen-in-het-drents-friese-wold/ https://www.myfootprints.nl/nederland/fietsen-en-wandelen-in...

radu_floricica 5y ago
Yeah, in practice you do have single lane sized paths used in both directions, and having as meter wide "truck" coming from the opposite direction won't be pleasant. Well, this is the kind of problem I like having - it means the new e-vehicle ecology is working. I think there are plenty of solutions for this, enough so we don't have to worry this early. Easiest is simply having a "no cargo" sign at the entrance of smaller bidirectional paths. But in practice, I think we'll see a mix of municipalities increasing lane size and producers coming up with smaller cargo vehicles.
- datavirtue 5y ago
  People pull kids and pets in cargo trailers a lot.
  - radu_floricica 5y ago
    His problem is with meter-wide ones, which yeah, are a bit of a stretch. But like I said I think it'll fix by itself - they're not the kind of vehicles you take on a forest pleasure ride anyways. They're probably more useful for business use.
  - teekert 5y ago
    It's also the combination with the higher speed. But indeed, in cities people often have broad e-cargo bikes [0] [0]: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bakfiets&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bakfiets&iax=images&ia=imag...
Someone 5y ago
> because obviously Google Streetview cars don't enter pure bike paths Their cars don’t, but their bicycles sometimes do (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View#Data_capturing_equipment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View#Data_captur... shows a trike. At the bottom of the page, there even is a photo of a pedestrian wearing a camera backpack)

radu_floricica 5y ago

Yeah, in practice you do have single lane sized paths used in both directions, and having as meter wide "truck" coming from the opposite direction won't be pleasant. Well, this is the kind of problem I like having - it means the new e-vehicle ecology is working. I think there are plenty of solutions for this, enough so we don't have to worry this early. Easiest is simply having a "no cargo" sign at the entrance of smaller bidirectional paths. But in practice, I think we'll see a mix of municipalities increasing lane size and producers coming up with smaller cargo vehicles.

datavirtue 5y ago
People pull kids and pets in cargo trailers a lot.
- radu_floricica 5y ago
  His problem is with meter-wide ones, which yeah, are a bit of a stretch. But like I said I think it'll fix by itself - they're not the kind of vehicles you take on a forest pleasure ride anyways. They're probably more useful for business use.
- teekert 5y ago
  It's also the combination with the higher speed. But indeed, in cities people often have broad e-cargo bikes [0] [0]: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bakfiets&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=bakfiets&iax=images&ia=imag...

Someone 5y ago

> because obviously Google Streetview cars don't enter pure bike paths Their cars don’t, but their bicycles sometimes do (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View#Data_capturing_equipment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View#Data_captur... shows a trike. At the bottom of the page, there even is a photo of a pedestrian wearing a camera backpack)