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I'm in the US, where I think the limit is 25mph /750w for ebikes. > 25kmph is about the max speed for a street cyclist but vehicles that sustain this speed for

I'm in the US, where I think the limit is 25mph /750w for ebikes. > 25kmph is about the max speed for a street cyclist but vehicles that sustain this speed for long periods I'd agree with you if that was 25mph. On my road bike I sustain 20 mph for most of the ride. 25mph would be sprinting. Also, I'd bring up a different point about ebikes. It takes a while to get steering and quick reaction time skills for going that fast, ex. having your inside knee up and being comfortable banking a turn. Also the market for ebikes : older/entry cyclists might not have the reaction time needed at those speeds. And a lot of ebikes have upright geometry not aggressive road bike geometry. I built an ebike to commute around on, bafang conversion kit on a mtb. Ebikes have their place, and I'm excited to commute with it in the snow. I think the main issue is we need larger paths for bikes. Not these single track lanes that exist in cities. A lot of time the time in my area it makes sense to just ride on the road than deal with a bike lane when riding my road bike (pedal power). And the product in the article is insane in a bike lane. I think it really highlights my point about the size of lanes. They need to be bigger if bikes are going to become a more viable form of commuting for everyone.

mrsuprawsm 5y ago
>And the product in the article is insane in a bike lane. I think it really highlights my point about the size of lanes. They need to be bigger if bikes are going to become a more viable form of commuting for everyone. I don't think so, they mention that it's only 1m wide, which is 25cm wider than the average bike. Here in NL, for example, it would fit pretty much perfectly in the existing bicycle infrastructure. (barring the occasional small bridge with poles/gates at the end to slow cyclists down)
- masklinn 5y ago
  > I don't think so, they mention that it's only 1m wide, which is 25cm wider than the average bike. And thinner than a Canta.
Symbiote 5y ago
No, 25km/h is the normal maximum speed for a normal person cycling. > On my road bike I sustain 20 mph for most of the ride. A few people manage 32km/h in the Netherlands or Denmark, but only if they have a long commute through the suburbs or a rural area, often for recreation/leisure/exercise. In towns, other people aren't expecting Lance Armstrong to appear, and can step/swerve into your path. You can see from [1] (at the linked point) that there's no way you'll be going fast through the centre of Amsterdam. The path isn't wide enough, there are far too many other cyclists and pedestrians, and the car drivers yielding at the junctions would be startled, at best. The same at 4m32s (a park). At 9m37s it looks like the kind of place you'd get some road/fast cyclists (in fact the narration says so). People who want to go as fast as you would usually select a different route, where possible. [1] https://youtu.be/M8F5hXqS-Ac?t=62 https://youtu.be/M8F5hXqS-Ac?t=62

mrsuprawsm 5y ago

>And the product in the article is insane in a bike lane. I think it really highlights my point about the size of lanes. They need to be bigger if bikes are going to become a more viable form of commuting for everyone. I don't think so, they mention that it's only 1m wide, which is 25cm wider than the average bike. Here in NL, for example, it would fit pretty much perfectly in the existing bicycle infrastructure. (barring the occasional small bridge with poles/gates at the end to slow cyclists down)

masklinn 5y ago
> I don't think so, they mention that it's only 1m wide, which is 25cm wider than the average bike. And thinner than a Canta.

Symbiote 5y ago

No, 25km/h is the normal maximum speed for a normal person cycling. > On my road bike I sustain 20 mph for most of the ride. A few people manage 32km/h in the Netherlands or Denmark, but only if they have a long commute through the suburbs or a rural area, often for recreation/leisure/exercise. In towns, other people aren't expecting Lance Armstrong to appear, and can step/swerve into your path. You can see from [1] (at the linked point) that there's no way you'll be going fast through the centre of Amsterdam. The path isn't wide enough, there are far too many other cyclists and pedestrians, and the car drivers yielding at the junctions would be startled, at best. The same at 4m32s (a park). At 9m37s it looks like the kind of place you'd get some road/fast cyclists (in fact the narration says so). People who want to go as fast as you would usually select a different route, where possible. [1] https://youtu.be/M8F5hXqS-Ac?t=62 https://youtu.be/M8F5hXqS-Ac?t=62