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Sorry if you feel like that! Not trying to hide anything... I read similar posts all the time... Cloud/Microsoft/Company v Company... I found out about this pl

by wilhil 15y ago

Sorry if you feel like that! Not trying to hide anything... I read similar posts all the time... Cloud/Microsoft/Company v Company... I found out about this place after someone else submitting one of my articles and have since submitted my own posts a few times simply because I felt they would be a good fit.

sunchild 15y ago
As long as we're OT, I want to address your other article: http://blog.williamhilsum.com/2011/07/my-take-on-google-apps-vs-office-365.html http://blog.williamhilsum.com/2011/07/my-take-on-google-apps... Using Google Apps with Outlook is a recipe for disaster. I use Google Apps IMAP (for local backups) via Apple Mail, Postbox, Swallow and other clients. I've never had the slightest issue. On the other hand, I've supported IMAP users in Outlook and hated every second of it. Outlook generally is a mess when it comes to playing nice with other non-MS tools. For example, .ost files that fail to back up properly, etc. It's definitely 90% my ignorance of Outlook, but I can't be bothered to learn the nuances of Outlook when everything else just works. The other 10% is due to the Google vs. MS rivalry. I realize you had no choice, given the client's use of a plug-in. I just wanted to point out that using Outlook with Google Apps is asking for trouble.
- wilhil 15y ago
  hehe - Thanks for reading! I have mixed feelings about Outlook Data Files (.ost or .pst). These are great when they work, but, I think they show their age for large modern mailboxes. As for Imap, I don't really know what to say above what I wrote in that article - It is clear that Outlook is built for Exchange... That being said, I have one client (and myself) that runs IMAP from a Hmailserver box and have never had a problem. Going over slow links/VPN when abroad has given me a lot of problems with Outlook, which I do not see whilst using a mobile device (I<device> or Android) when set to only download the last 50 messages - so, again, I agree that Outlook's handling could be a lot better. But... On top of that, Gmail has just given me so many problems weather using Oulook, Thunderbird or a few other mail clients. If you only use Gmail through their website, it works great - but, I personally think that the way they use labels instead of folders along with a few other things (deletion etc.) made a mess when they tried to implement the IMAP protocol.
  - sunchild 15y ago
    Yes, migration from Exchange doesn't work well because of the fundamental difference between search vs. sort. I'll never use Exchange again, personally. It feels like time traveling back to 2002. I'd never use 365, but I know a lot of people are wedded to the MS platform now.

by wilhil 15y ago

sunchild 15y ago

As long as we're OT, I want to address your other article: http://blog.williamhilsum.com/2011/07/my-take-on-google-apps-vs-office-365.html http://blog.williamhilsum.com/2011/07/my-take-on-google-apps... Using Google Apps with Outlook is a recipe for disaster. I use Google Apps IMAP (for local backups) via Apple Mail, Postbox, Swallow and other clients. I've never had the slightest issue. On the other hand, I've supported IMAP users in Outlook and hated every second of it. Outlook generally is a mess when it comes to playing nice with other non-MS tools. For example, .ost files that fail to back up properly, etc. It's definitely 90% my ignorance of Outlook, but I can't be bothered to learn the nuances of Outlook when everything else just works. The other 10% is due to the Google vs. MS rivalry. I realize you had no choice, given the client's use of a plug-in. I just wanted to point out that using Outlook with Google Apps is asking for trouble.

wilhil 15y ago
hehe - Thanks for reading! I have mixed feelings about Outlook Data Files (.ost or .pst). These are great when they work, but, I think they show their age for large modern mailboxes. As for Imap, I don't really know what to say above what I wrote in that article - It is clear that Outlook is built for Exchange... That being said, I have one client (and myself) that runs IMAP from a Hmailserver box and have never had a problem. Going over slow links/VPN when abroad has given me a lot of problems with Outlook, which I do not see whilst using a mobile device (I<device> or Android) when set to only download the last 50 messages - so, again, I agree that Outlook's handling could be a lot better. But... On top of that, Gmail has just given me so many problems weather using Oulook, Thunderbird or a few other mail clients. If you only use Gmail through their website, it works great - but, I personally think that the way they use labels instead of folders along with a few other things (deletion etc.) made a mess when they tried to implement the IMAP protocol.
- sunchild 15y ago
  Yes, migration from Exchange doesn't work well because of the fundamental difference between search vs. sort. I'll never use Exchange again, personally. It feels like time traveling back to 2002. I'd never use 365, but I know a lot of people are wedded to the MS platform now.