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Not sure why not having kid is such controversial. I guess people just can't be not selfish, they will find any excuse. People will do anything that does not ch

Not sure why not having kid is such controversial. I guess people just can't be not selfish, they will find any excuse. People will do anything that does not change their lifestyle, basically all of which are useless compared to what is going on in climate crisis. Not having kid is the most effective thing anyone can do. You can just adopt instead, raise them to be ethical. It should not be so controversial. You can be a parent without giving birth. Also bringing a kid without their consent to this dying planet and then make them fix it (which due to their ancestor's screw ups and comfort) looks like a punishment by parents, pretty selfish. These kids already have jobs to perform before even born. I sure don't want my kids to suffer this disaster and without their consent. Data conclusively indicates real-world climate change is tracking RCP8.5, the IPCC’s “worst case scenario”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fliCxyAwBWU&t=719s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fliCxyAwBWU&t=719s

bluedevil2k 5y ago
> People will do anything that does not change their lifestyle Clearly you don’t have children if you think having a child doesn’t change your lifestyle. > Also bringing a kid without their consent to this dying planet and then make them fix it…looks like a punishment by parents, pretty selfish Here’s a tip, don’t use this line on a first date.
- birksherty 5y ago
  It's not about dating. It's truth that you didn't want to hear. Because accepting truth is difficult, so fight it, deny it instead. Regarding lifestyle, I chose wrong word, not my first language. It's what and how you want your life that you don't want to compromise for climate crisis.
gameman144 5y ago
I don't think not having a kid is, itself, controversial. I think that telling others who want children not to have them is the controversial bit. On the one hand, it is a very effective way to reduce your carbon footprint if you can do it. On the other hand, for many people it conflicts with one of the most basic human desires, which is life-defining for lots of the population. As an analogy, if you asked people to be celibate you could guarantee that no new babies would come along even if birth-control-methods failed; a huge net positive! Despite that, sex is a basic human experience that many see as integral to their vision of a life, and it'd be controversial to seemingly impose that restriction on others. tl;dr: no controversy in you doing you, sometimes controversy in you asking others to similarly do you

bluedevil2k 5y ago

> People will do anything that does not change their lifestyle Clearly you don’t have children if you think having a child doesn’t change your lifestyle. > Also bringing a kid without their consent to this dying planet and then make them fix it…looks like a punishment by parents, pretty selfish Here’s a tip, don’t use this line on a first date.

birksherty 5y ago
It's not about dating. It's truth that you didn't want to hear. Because accepting truth is difficult, so fight it, deny it instead. Regarding lifestyle, I chose wrong word, not my first language. It's what and how you want your life that you don't want to compromise for climate crisis.

gameman144 5y ago

I don't think not having a kid is, itself, controversial. I think that telling others who want children not to have them is the controversial bit. On the one hand, it is a very effective way to reduce your carbon footprint if you can do it. On the other hand, for many people it conflicts with one of the most basic human desires, which is life-defining for lots of the population. As an analogy, if you asked people to be celibate you could guarantee that no new babies would come along even if birth-control-methods failed; a huge net positive! Despite that, sex is a basic human experience that many see as integral to their vision of a life, and it'd be controversial to seemingly impose that restriction on others. tl;dr: no controversy in you doing you, sometimes controversy in you asking others to similarly do you