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> The one-time payment model is a much greater risk to the consumer than monthly subscriptions. Short term - yes. But long term? It seems there is no point in

by Otek 5y ago

> The one-time payment model is a much greater risk to the consumer than monthly subscriptions. Short term - yes. But long term? It seems there is no point in planning to use a software for years now. And I don't like to migrate my knowledge base to new tool, every 2 years. But is there a way other than mastering org-mode on weekends?

mickael-kerjean 5y ago
> But is there a way other than mastering org-mode on weekends? 1. a quick tutorial will be plenty to get you started: https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/20/emacs-tutorial-series-episode-2/ https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/20/emacs-tutorial-series-... 2. if you don't want to bother learning emacs, no worries, use one of the web apps such as the one I built: https://demo.filestash.app/login?next=/view/org/emacs.org#type=git&repo=https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage_org_demo https://demo.filestash.app/login?next=/view/org/emacs.org#ty...
- chrisweekly 5y ago
  See also ObsidianMD and Athens Research.
TeMPOraL 5y ago
Long-term? Not much beyond org-mode + org-roam at the moment. I've seen one or two alternatives (open-source products), but I don't remember their names. The rule still applies: whatever you chose, do not become dependent on a SaaS offering. The problem is in the name: service. A service is something other people do for you. They can stop at any time.
- alisonkisk 5y ago
  We are dependent on food and water, which requires ongoing support from a vendor. The problem is in having a trustworthy vendor or a healthy marketplace of alternatives you can switch to.
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    That's true. We're all dependent on plenty of services. But the difference between those and SaaS is that they're all commodity services. This means you have a steady selection of service providers, all providing equivalent service, and there's no risk with any individual provider disappearing - you can just switch over to a different one, and get the same thing. An important aspect of most SaaS businesses is that they're not commodities. It's a core part of most SaaS business models - they're purposefully sticky. When you become dependent on one, and it shuts down, or gets acquired, or decides to discontinue the features you care about, there usually is no drop-in replacement. There may not be a replacement at all, for the combination of features you need. And whatever alternative you find, migrating all your data is usually difficult, and often not possible.

by Otek 5y ago

mickael-kerjean 5y ago

> But is there a way other than mastering org-mode on weekends? 1. a quick tutorial will be plenty to get you started: https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/20/emacs-tutorial-series-episode-2/ https://mickael.kerjean.me/2017/03/20/emacs-tutorial-series-... 2. if you don't want to bother learning emacs, no worries, use one of the web apps such as the one I built: https://demo.filestash.app/login?next=/view/org/emacs.org#type=git&repo=https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage_org_demo https://demo.filestash.app/login?next=/view/org/emacs.org#ty...

chrisweekly 5y ago
See also ObsidianMD and Athens Research.

TeMPOraL 5y ago

Long-term? Not much beyond org-mode + org-roam at the moment. I've seen one or two alternatives (open-source products), but I don't remember their names. The rule still applies: whatever you chose, do not become dependent on a SaaS offering. The problem is in the name: service. A service is something other people do for you. They can stop at any time.

alisonkisk 5y ago
We are dependent on food and water, which requires ongoing support from a vendor. The problem is in having a trustworthy vendor or a healthy marketplace of alternatives you can switch to.
- TeMPOraL 5y ago
  That's true. We're all dependent on plenty of services. But the difference between those and SaaS is that they're all commodity services. This means you have a steady selection of service providers, all providing equivalent service, and there's no risk with any individual provider disappearing - you can just switch over to a different one, and get the same thing. An important aspect of most SaaS businesses is that they're not commodities. It's a core part of most SaaS business models - they're purposefully sticky. When you become dependent on one, and it shuts down, or gets acquired, or decides to discontinue the features you care about, there usually is no drop-in replacement. There may not be a replacement at all, for the combination of features you need. And whatever alternative you find, migrating all your data is usually difficult, and often not possible.