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Basically: "Ants built a mound near a hole, some started falling down and couldn't get back up; with no food, lower ants had to eat ant corpses; the lower ants

by thih9 5y ago

Basically: "Ants built a mound near a hole, some started falling down and couldn't get back up; with no food, lower ants had to eat ant corpses; the lower ants also built a mound (with no pupas) and dragged corpses that have been eaten onto a pile; later scientists removed the obstacle so that ants that fall down could get back up". I'm a bit disappointed that the "soviet nuclear bunker" didn't play a bigger role.

make3 5y ago
didnt they also install a long 2 by 4
- thih9 5y ago
  That's what I meant by: "later scientists removed the obstacle so that ants that fall down could get back up"; i.e. scientists "removed the obstacle" by installing the 2/4; apologies if this is worded in an unintuitive way.
xwdv 5y ago
There was one ant that fell in while carrying a pupa. That pupa ended up being born in the darkness of this hell hole prison, never knowing any other kind of life. So when the wood 2x4 came down from the sky the other ants were scared and skeptical. But this pupa was not afraid and would be the first to climb it. When he reached the top, he saw the light for the first time and finally knew the world that had been kept from him all his life. When his brothers saw he had succeeded, they followed his scent trail upward, and that’s how the pupa became the new leader of an army brought out from the darkness.
- sneak 5y ago
  I thought you were going for allegory of the cave, and were a little sad when you didn't.
  - solarmist 5y ago
    Which allegory is that? Plato’s cave? Oh, wow, I didn't realize it was called “the allegory of the cave.” That's such a bleak view of humanity. I don't think it's quite that bad in general, but I can certainly see the inspiration for it even nowadays.
  - xwdv 5y ago
    It doesn’t really fit the situation perfectly.
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- vijayr02 5y ago
  Let me guess: the ant was Bane and the pupa was Miranda Tate / Talia al Ghul https://chrisnolan.fandom.com/wiki/Miranda_Tate https://chrisnolan.fandom.com/wiki/Miranda_Tate
  - thuccess129 5y ago
    The ant idea and communist propaganda or capitalist advertising and the rocky horror show for the bottom dwellers sprung Jack Ma's self-satisfied face seated beside Elon Musk to my mind.

by thih9 5y ago

make3 5y ago

didnt they also install a long 2 by 4

thih9 5y ago
That's what I meant by: "later scientists removed the obstacle so that ants that fall down could get back up"; i.e. scientists "removed the obstacle" by installing the 2/4; apologies if this is worded in an unintuitive way.

xwdv 5y ago

There was one ant that fell in while carrying a pupa. That pupa ended up being born in the darkness of this hell hole prison, never knowing any other kind of life. So when the wood 2x4 came down from the sky the other ants were scared and skeptical. But this pupa was not afraid and would be the first to climb it. When he reached the top, he saw the light for the first time and finally knew the world that had been kept from him all his life. When his brothers saw he had succeeded, they followed his scent trail upward, and that’s how the pupa became the new leader of an army brought out from the darkness.

sneak 5y ago
I thought you were going for allegory of the cave, and were a little sad when you didn't.
- solarmist 5y ago
  Which allegory is that? Plato’s cave? Oh, wow, I didn't realize it was called “the allegory of the cave.” That's such a bleak view of humanity. I don't think it's quite that bad in general, but I can certainly see the inspiration for it even nowadays.
- xwdv 5y ago
  It doesn’t really fit the situation perfectly.
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vijayr02 5y ago
Let me guess: the ant was Bane and the pupa was Miranda Tate / Talia al Ghul https://chrisnolan.fandom.com/wiki/Miranda_Tate https://chrisnolan.fandom.com/wiki/Miranda_Tate
- thuccess129 5y ago
  The ant idea and communist propaganda or capitalist advertising and the rocky horror show for the bottom dwellers sprung Jack Ma's self-satisfied face seated beside Elon Musk to my mind.