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AWS are not looking at customers data as it would be professional suicide. It would only require one disgruntled employee to leak this. Realistically they don't

AWS are not looking at customers data as it would be professional suicide. It would only require one disgruntled employee to leak this. Realistically they don't even have to as a proxies version of this data can be bought.

onion2k 5y ago
AWS are not looking at customers data as it would be professional suicide. This is why it comes down to trusting Amazon. Essentially the question is "Do you trust Amazon not to do something that would be 'professional suicide', like accessing a rival company's AWS data, enough to risk giving them your data?" If you're running an online retailer that's a competitor to Amazon you should probably fall on the side of caution because companies do stupid shit all the time.
- noiwillnot 5y ago
  There are plenty of reports of: - Amazon predatory pricing - Amazon trying to mistreat their workers (including AWS) as much as they can - Amazon/AWS copying products, FOSS software, and messing up with companies that they invest into. - Their complicity with all the scams going on their store. - And a big, big etc But, but, Amazon is not AWS! Amazon is retail and is a different environment! Yes, but it is under the same people.
  - handrous 5y ago
    Amazon's the scary-looking flea market on the wrong side of town with the barbed wire on the roof and a couple tough-looking guys conspicuously hanging out out front, with half the stalls full of stuff that definitely "fell off the back of the truck" and the rest selling fake Rolexes and shit. Doing that at scale doesn't make them more trustworthy. Or it shouldn't. Then again I guess if you're a super-creepy stalker at large enough scale then you're Facebook or Google and instead of getting probation and a restraining order you get billions of dollars, so maybe it does work that way.
jonahbenton 5y ago
The line that divides "the data of an AWS customer" from "the data of an AWS product" is rather faintly drawn. The latter is often sufficient proxy for the former to make business decisions on.
- jjoonathan 5y ago
  Exactly. It's like promising not to snoop phone conversations when all the valuable information is in the metadata, or like promising to avoid using swords in an era where people fight with guns.

onion2k 5y ago

AWS are not looking at customers data as it would be professional suicide. This is why it comes down to trusting Amazon. Essentially the question is "Do you trust Amazon not to do something that would be 'professional suicide', like accessing a rival company's AWS data, enough to risk giving them your data?" If you're running an online retailer that's a competitor to Amazon you should probably fall on the side of caution because companies do stupid shit all the time.

noiwillnot 5y ago
There are plenty of reports of: - Amazon predatory pricing - Amazon trying to mistreat their workers (including AWS) as much as they can - Amazon/AWS copying products, FOSS software, and messing up with companies that they invest into. - Their complicity with all the scams going on their store. - And a big, big etc But, but, Amazon is not AWS! Amazon is retail and is a different environment! Yes, but it is under the same people.
- handrous 5y ago
  Amazon's the scary-looking flea market on the wrong side of town with the barbed wire on the roof and a couple tough-looking guys conspicuously hanging out out front, with half the stalls full of stuff that definitely "fell off the back of the truck" and the rest selling fake Rolexes and shit. Doing that at scale doesn't make them more trustworthy. Or it shouldn't. Then again I guess if you're a super-creepy stalker at large enough scale then you're Facebook or Google and instead of getting probation and a restraining order you get billions of dollars, so maybe it does work that way.

jonahbenton 5y ago

The line that divides "the data of an AWS customer" from "the data of an AWS product" is rather faintly drawn. The latter is often sufficient proxy for the former to make business decisions on.

jjoonathan 5y ago
Exactly. It's like promising not to snoop phone conversations when all the valuable information is in the metadata, or like promising to avoid using swords in an era where people fight with guns.