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This author is pretending agency, self determination and power don't exist and it makes this one of the most slimy articles I've read in a minute. > If we real

by MrLeap 5y ago

This author is pretending agency, self determination and power don't exist and it makes this one of the most slimy articles I've read in a minute. > If we really care about our privacy, though, why do we share so much? Can someone explain to me a charitable motive that could possibly be behind this article? Naivety is the best I've got but it strains credulity. The author is posing a question that's hitting my brain like they're asking why I deserve safety and security when I dress the way that I do.

lazide 5y ago
The vast majority of people grew up in, and/or are comfortable with, environments with little to no actual privacy - and actually don’t care. To your example - a large, visible, and not-going-away segment of the population sees nothing wrong with the statement you’re alluding to, and strongly believes it as it also lines up with their cultural context. It isn’t me, and apparently isn’t you - but it is a lot of people, and as the internet has seen wider adoption, that gets more visible.
- adminscoffee 5y ago
  this and we also cannot rule out disinformation campaigns from special interest groups who make it a goal to get people to be okay with oppression. i am sure there are countries out there who are less free who view freer nations as an eyesore to their agenda.
  - lazide 5y ago
    For sure. There are strong arguments to be made that the culture and cultural context of a society is more often than not constructed than emergent - everything from religious leaders, to laws, to advertising campaigns strongly influence it in very visible and measurable ways (albeit not always the ones intended), and those are generally set or strongly influenced by the ‘authorities’. Where the authorities are strongly authoritarian, you’ll definitely see the normalization and entrenchment of oppression, mobilization of society to attack those who are ‘others’ or challenge the status quo, blatant propaganda, secret police, secret courts, and many other things. Near as I can tell, there is no modern society on earth that isn’t doing it to some significant extent. Like an accent, it’s almost impossible to tell it even exists when you grow up in it. To someone who hasn’t looked for it, or travelled enough to see the patterns, everyone else just speaks weird.

by MrLeap 5y ago

lazide 5y ago

The vast majority of people grew up in, and/or are comfortable with, environments with little to no actual privacy - and actually don’t care. To your example - a large, visible, and not-going-away segment of the population sees nothing wrong with the statement you’re alluding to, and strongly believes it as it also lines up with their cultural context. It isn’t me, and apparently isn’t you - but it is a lot of people, and as the internet has seen wider adoption, that gets more visible.

adminscoffee 5y ago
this and we also cannot rule out disinformation campaigns from special interest groups who make it a goal to get people to be okay with oppression. i am sure there are countries out there who are less free who view freer nations as an eyesore to their agenda.
- lazide 5y ago
  For sure. There are strong arguments to be made that the culture and cultural context of a society is more often than not constructed than emergent - everything from religious leaders, to laws, to advertising campaigns strongly influence it in very visible and measurable ways (albeit not always the ones intended), and those are generally set or strongly influenced by the ‘authorities’. Where the authorities are strongly authoritarian, you’ll definitely see the normalization and entrenchment of oppression, mobilization of society to attack those who are ‘others’ or challenge the status quo, blatant propaganda, secret police, secret courts, and many other things. Near as I can tell, there is no modern society on earth that isn’t doing it to some significant extent. Like an accent, it’s almost impossible to tell it even exists when you grow up in it. To someone who hasn’t looked for it, or travelled enough to see the patterns, everyone else just speaks weird.