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I'm curious what the author thinks about the navy seals. Would they be successful taking his approach? I don't think so. I think some people respond to the lov

I'm curious what the author thinks about the navy seals. Would they be successful taking his approach? I don't think so. I think some people respond to the lovey-dovey caring approach that he takes and others respond better to the strong, aggressive approach that the navy seals, and his coworker take. My biggest criticism of the author is that he makes a strong moral judgment that his way is the right way and any other way is wrong. For example, he paints his fellow teacher as an evil person who abuses her students. I'd even go so far as saying this encapsulates one of the reasons we are so politically polarized these days. I think the left has a tendency to act like this guy and the right wingers get sick of people thinking they're evil.

ativzzz 5y ago
> I'm curious what the author thinks about the navy seals Probably that it weeds out a lot of people with seen or unseen issues who would be perceived by society as lazy.
- serverholic 5y ago
  Check out David Goggins. It can also push people to get past their issues.
- tonyedgecombe 5y ago
  Perhaps it's the ones that progress in that environment that have the problems. It would be interesting to look at rates of alcoholism, drug abuse, divorce and violence amongst this group. https://www.thefix.com/navy-seal-culture-eroding-due-drug-abuse-captain-says https://www.thefix.com/navy-seal-culture-eroding-due-drug-ab... https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-navy-seal-platoon-ordered-home-iraq-allegedly/story?id=64552695 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-navy-seal-platoon-ordered...
micromacrofoot 5y ago
the attrition rate of the navy seals is ~75%, some % of that "successful" 25% ultimately go on to suffer from PTSD... it's not a great parallel
GaylordTuring 5y ago
Yes. The same argument that he uses to defend “lazy” people can also be applied to “morally repugnant” people (e.g., they haven’t been taught to think correctly about these things and therefor draw erroneous conclusions). That doesn’t make the argument wrong, but it does mean that you have to give pretty much anyone a pass. Most people aren’t willing to do this.
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ativzzz 5y ago

> I'm curious what the author thinks about the navy seals Probably that it weeds out a lot of people with seen or unseen issues who would be perceived by society as lazy.

serverholic 5y ago
Check out David Goggins. It can also push people to get past their issues.
tonyedgecombe 5y ago
Perhaps it's the ones that progress in that environment that have the problems. It would be interesting to look at rates of alcoholism, drug abuse, divorce and violence amongst this group. https://www.thefix.com/navy-seal-culture-eroding-due-drug-abuse-captain-says https://www.thefix.com/navy-seal-culture-eroding-due-drug-ab... https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-navy-seal-platoon-ordered-home-iraq-allegedly/story?id=64552695 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-navy-seal-platoon-ordered...

micromacrofoot 5y ago

the attrition rate of the navy seals is ~75%, some % of that "successful" 25% ultimately go on to suffer from PTSD... it's not a great parallel

GaylordTuring 5y ago

Yes. The same argument that he uses to defend “lazy” people can also be applied to “morally repugnant” people (e.g., they haven’t been taught to think correctly about these things and therefor draw erroneous conclusions). That doesn’t make the argument wrong, but it does mean that you have to give pretty much anyone a pass. Most people aren’t willing to do this.

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