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> Followed by, "Am I being detained?" If the answer is "No, you are not being detained." then leave immediately (unless at your house, in which case go inside a

> Followed by, "Am I being detained?" If the answer is "No, you are not being detained." then leave immediately (unless at your house, in which case go inside and lock the door). Your process is missing a bit of exposition here - I see lots of videos of people repeatedly asking that question and it not having a great outcome.

hayd 5y ago
You can do so politely rather than belligerently. Asking once or twice should be sufficient, if they don't answer but do not let you leave... clearly you are being detained.
- metalliqaz 5y ago
  it also helps to look like you can afford a lawyer
  - NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
    Indeed.
- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
  Yeah, I think striking the difficult balance of firmly and clearly asserting your rights but also seeming to be a reasonable, sane person who's really on the cops' side--all in the heat of a stressful moment--is the key. "I appreciate your work officer, but I'm going to have to decline to consent to a search."?
KennyBlanken 5y ago
Yeah, the last time I asked a cop that, I was told "YES, YOU ARE." "Why?" "SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR, like asking if you're being deeeetaiiiiined." Lots of videos of Sovereign Citizen nutjobs screeching "am I being detained?" hasn't helped things.
- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
  I have the vague recollection that there's some case law about this. Basically, asserting your rights doesn't create probable cause. Only useful after the fact, in court tho.
  - syshum 5y ago
    Also if you do not assert your right you lose them, case law about that do recently. It is a double edged sword because sadly the police view the public as the enemy in alot of cases, and if you know your rights under the law they view you as "aggressive" or "hindering" their job. Most do not understand that their primary job is to protect those rights the same rights that they hate people knowing and exercising. Instead they are deluded into this belief by elected officials that their legal role is one of overseer, or ruler over the residents or subjects in the jurisdiction...
  - KennyBlanken 5y ago
    That is of zero practical use on the side of a road with an angry cop screaming at you who has the power to significantly if not enormously disrupt your life.
ikerdanzel 5y ago
Lacking doxing and gangs. You'll see even FBI knelt to BLM. It helps to have friends and immediately take police pictures, license plate and their name. Then track down where they live. Most law enforcers are scared when they know this is done on them. A lot of police getting attacked has no suspect or culprits.

hayd 5y ago

You can do so politely rather than belligerently. Asking once or twice should be sufficient, if they don't answer but do not let you leave... clearly you are being detained.

metalliqaz 5y ago
it also helps to look like you can afford a lawyer
- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
  Indeed.
NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
Yeah, I think striking the difficult balance of firmly and clearly asserting your rights but also seeming to be a reasonable, sane person who's really on the cops' side--all in the heat of a stressful moment--is the key. "I appreciate your work officer, but I'm going to have to decline to consent to a search."?

KennyBlanken 5y ago

Yeah, the last time I asked a cop that, I was told "YES, YOU ARE." "Why?" "SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR, like asking if you're being deeeetaiiiiined." Lots of videos of Sovereign Citizen nutjobs screeching "am I being detained?" hasn't helped things.

NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago
I have the vague recollection that there's some case law about this. Basically, asserting your rights doesn't create probable cause. Only useful after the fact, in court tho.
- syshum 5y ago
  Also if you do not assert your right you lose them, case law about that do recently. It is a double edged sword because sadly the police view the public as the enemy in alot of cases, and if you know your rights under the law they view you as "aggressive" or "hindering" their job. Most do not understand that their primary job is to protect those rights the same rights that they hate people knowing and exercising. Instead they are deluded into this belief by elected officials that their legal role is one of overseer, or ruler over the residents or subjects in the jurisdiction...
- KennyBlanken 5y ago
  That is of zero practical use on the side of a road with an angry cop screaming at you who has the power to significantly if not enormously disrupt your life.

ikerdanzel 5y ago

Lacking doxing and gangs. You'll see even FBI knelt to BLM. It helps to have friends and immediately take police pictures, license plate and their name. Then track down where they live. Most law enforcers are scared when they know this is done on them. A lot of police getting attacked has no suspect or culprits.