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This is why I started buying iPhones. The resale value of a device after 2 years of usage is over 50% of the original cost if it's in good condition OEM qualit

This is why I started buying iPhones. The resale value of a device after 2 years of usage is over 50% of the original cost if it's in good condition OEM quality is all over the place for Android, crapware is standard. It's been 4 years of iPhone for me and the only complaint I have is how bad Apple Maps can be

brundolf 5y ago
Apple Maps has been great for me, though I've heard the data quality varies widely based on where you live For me it's just a cleaner, simpler, less ad-infested version of Google Maps
- arenaninja 5y ago
  I'm in the US but outside California. I find Apple Maps has better estimates for directions, but Google Maps is much more likely to have small businesses in its data set. I've also had experiences where it makes me drive across the street from my destination/1 block or two away I want to like it because, as you pointed out, it's a cleaner interface
  - brundolf 5y ago
    Yeah. I'm in Austin, which probably means my local data gets more attention than most They do have a mechanism for filing corrections from within the app, which I've used a couple times and it seems to actually result in fixes, which is great Hopefully they give more priority to a wider set of areas in the future
    - arenaninja 5y ago
      I've submitted corrections a couple of times, I found the process cumbersome. Maybe it has improved since I used it
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Definitely helps to be in a major metro area. Even then, while I think Portland has pretty good detail, it was noticeably improved when I drove through the Bay Area last weekend. When that level of detail is available everywhere (in the US, at least), Google may have something to worry about.
- can16358p 5y ago
  I like the interface of Apple Maps, but where I live (Turkey) the map data itself is very limited and buggy. It shows a literally 15-min walk as 2 days 16 hours by taking me through Greece and the islands instead of a simple crosswalk, for example.
- drcongo 5y ago
  I was a big fan when I lived in London, but I recently moved away to a new town that I don't know very well and on Friday it sent me on a 1hr walk that should have taken 25 minutes. When I looked at the route it took me afterwards, it made absolutely no sense at all.
  - windock 5y ago
    That is hilarious.
- beezischillin 5y ago
  I like the zoom level to information ratio a lot on Apple Maps, especially in the UK. It’s not very good in my country so I reluctantly use Waze instead when needed.
rootusrootus 5y ago
This, exactly, is why I switched to iPhones. The only way Android devices are cheaper is if you run them into the ground and don't upgrade until you must. Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. Combined with the utter lack of support more than the first couple years of ownership. I can upgrade my iPhone every 2 or 3 years and spend a lot less overall. My wallet was always open when I tried to stay current with Android flagships.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. My strategy for my last phone was to buy the previous year's flagship for this reason.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    That is a good strategy. I could have saved a good chunk of change by not insisting that I have the latest shiny.
    - nicoburns 5y ago
      It worked out pretty well. Paid ~£300 for a second hand Samsung S7 mid 2017 and it lasted until last month (so ~4 years) where it completely died (stuck on the rebooted and then stuck on the boot screen getting really hot). Somehow it was even still getting occasional security updates, although I think that was just luck. Currently using a cheap backup device I normally use for app dev while I workout what my plan for the next one is.
      - beagle3 5y ago
        Did it get feature updates? Security updates? FWIW, the iPhone 6S (first avail oct 2015) gets iOS 15 ; and iPhone 6 still got a security update in mid 2021 despite being out of feature support.
danudey 5y ago
I bought my iPhone 13 Pro, and there was an option right there on the page to trade in my existing hardware. I chose yes, and, because I bought that phone with my same apple account which I also have linked to the hardware, my phone showed up right there as an option. I tapped on it, said yes it's in good condition, and got like $530 CDN off my purchase. Could I sell my phone for more than $530? Yes. Is it worth my time to deal with asshats on Craigslist who arrange a time to meet up and then ghost you for three days, just to get a bit more out of it? Nah. (Despite initially trying to sell it, my iPhone Xs sat on a shelf for two years until someone saw it and said "Hey are you selling that? My phone is dying.") Presumably that also means that the phone is going to get refurbished, or maybe stripped for parts and recycled by Apple's fancy disassembly robots, which is nice.
- dnissley 5y ago
  Maybe you don't have the option in Canada, but Swappa has solved the sell-it-yourself problem in the US.
  - nebula8804 5y ago
    How does Swappa handle fraud? ie. saying the phone is broken and then shipping back some other device to the seller?
    - dnissley 5y ago
      The seller registers the IMEI along with the listing, so if the buyer sent back a different device it would be clear they did that.
- hbn 5y ago
  Which phone did you trade in to get $530?
Server6 5y ago
I mainly use the Google Maps app on the iPhone.
DrBenCarson 5y ago
Apple Maps is pretty good these days IMO. I used it ahead of Google Maps by choice

brundolf 5y ago

Apple Maps has been great for me, though I've heard the data quality varies widely based on where you live For me it's just a cleaner, simpler, less ad-infested version of Google Maps

arenaninja 5y ago
I'm in the US but outside California. I find Apple Maps has better estimates for directions, but Google Maps is much more likely to have small businesses in its data set. I've also had experiences where it makes me drive across the street from my destination/1 block or two away I want to like it because, as you pointed out, it's a cleaner interface
- brundolf 5y ago
  Yeah. I'm in Austin, which probably means my local data gets more attention than most They do have a mechanism for filing corrections from within the app, which I've used a couple times and it seems to actually result in fixes, which is great Hopefully they give more priority to a wider set of areas in the future
  - arenaninja 5y ago
    I've submitted corrections a couple of times, I found the process cumbersome. Maybe it has improved since I used it
rootusrootus 5y ago
Definitely helps to be in a major metro area. Even then, while I think Portland has pretty good detail, it was noticeably improved when I drove through the Bay Area last weekend. When that level of detail is available everywhere (in the US, at least), Google may have something to worry about.
can16358p 5y ago
I like the interface of Apple Maps, but where I live (Turkey) the map data itself is very limited and buggy. It shows a literally 15-min walk as 2 days 16 hours by taking me through Greece and the islands instead of a simple crosswalk, for example.
drcongo 5y ago
I was a big fan when I lived in London, but I recently moved away to a new town that I don't know very well and on Friday it sent me on a 1hr walk that should have taken 25 minutes. When I looked at the route it took me afterwards, it made absolutely no sense at all.
- windock 5y ago
  That is hilarious.
beezischillin 5y ago
I like the zoom level to information ratio a lot on Apple Maps, especially in the UK. It’s not very good in my country so I reluctantly use Waze instead when needed.

rootusrootus 5y ago

This, exactly, is why I switched to iPhones. The only way Android devices are cheaper is if you run them into the ground and don't upgrade until you must. Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. Combined with the utter lack of support more than the first couple years of ownership. I can upgrade my iPhone every 2 or 3 years and spend a lot less overall. My wallet was always open when I tried to stay current with Android flagships.

nicoburns 5y ago
> Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. My strategy for my last phone was to buy the previous year's flagship for this reason.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  That is a good strategy. I could have saved a good chunk of change by not insisting that I have the latest shiny.
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    It worked out pretty well. Paid ~£300 for a second hand Samsung S7 mid 2017 and it lasted until last month (so ~4 years) where it completely died (stuck on the rebooted and then stuck on the boot screen getting really hot). Somehow it was even still getting occasional security updates, although I think that was just luck. Currently using a cheap backup device I normally use for app dev while I workout what my plan for the next one is.
    - beagle3 5y ago
      Did it get feature updates? Security updates? FWIW, the iPhone 6S (first avail oct 2015) gets iOS 15 ; and iPhone 6 still got a security update in mid 2021 despite being out of feature support.

danudey 5y ago

I bought my iPhone 13 Pro, and there was an option right there on the page to trade in my existing hardware. I chose yes, and, because I bought that phone with my same apple account which I also have linked to the hardware, my phone showed up right there as an option. I tapped on it, said yes it's in good condition, and got like $530 CDN off my purchase. Could I sell my phone for more than $530? Yes. Is it worth my time to deal with asshats on Craigslist who arrange a time to meet up and then ghost you for three days, just to get a bit more out of it? Nah. (Despite initially trying to sell it, my iPhone Xs sat on a shelf for two years until someone saw it and said "Hey are you selling that? My phone is dying.") Presumably that also means that the phone is going to get refurbished, or maybe stripped for parts and recycled by Apple's fancy disassembly robots, which is nice.

dnissley 5y ago
Maybe you don't have the option in Canada, but Swappa has solved the sell-it-yourself problem in the US.
- nebula8804 5y ago
  How does Swappa handle fraud? ie. saying the phone is broken and then shipping back some other device to the seller?
  - dnissley 5y ago
    The seller registers the IMEI along with the listing, so if the buyer sent back a different device it would be clear they did that.
hbn 5y ago
Which phone did you trade in to get $530?

Server6 5y ago

I mainly use the Google Maps app on the iPhone.

DrBenCarson 5y ago

Apple Maps is pretty good these days IMO. I used it ahead of Google Maps by choice