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I suspect you started replying before I edited my comment to remove mention of the suspiciousness of his cash pile. Frankly, neither #2 nor #3 apply to a pile

I suspect you started replying before I edited my comment to remove mention of the suspiciousness of his cash pile. Frankly, neither #2 nor #3 apply to a pile of cash in a safe deposit box (and who loans almost twice the median income to someone?!), and #5 is illegal. But yes, big pile of cash is definitely a bad excuse for a search and a worse excuse for a seizure.

crooked-v 5y ago
> and #5 is illegal Only if that's an attempt to evade legal requirements, rather than (for example) moving personal money out of accounts that the ex-spouse has access to.
- jfrunyon 5y ago
  You can "(for example)" move personal money out of accounts that the ex-spouse has access to without putting it in a safe deposit box.
  - kbelder 5y ago
    Or, you can put it in a safe deposit box.
  - crooked-v 5y ago
    That presumes other accounts or the ability to immediately open other accounts.
kook_throwaway 5y ago
2 and 3 absolutely can apply. Considering you get reported to the feds for transactions over $10,000 (or is it lower now?), it's completely reasonable for someone to decide it's not worth the risk and set the cash aside. As far as number 5, you can't assume that's illegal either. I have a family member who's ex wife continues to commit identity theft and cause headaches for him 5 years after the divorce is over.
- jfrunyon 5y ago
  > Considering you get reported to the feds for transactions over $10,000 (or is it lower now?), it's completely reasonable for someone to decide it's not worth the risk and set the cash aside. In that case, it would also be illegal. > As far as number 5, you can't assume that's illegal either. I have a family member [whose] ex wife continues to commit identity theft and cause headaches for him 5 years after the divorce is over. Okay? So he keeps his money in cash in a safe deposit box? Doubt.
  - Zircom 5y ago
    >In that case, it would also be illegal. It'd only be illegal if they weren't paying taxes on it or otherwise not reporting it for other purposes. Having a giant pile of cash because I don't like my bank auto reporting my money in and of itself isn't evidence of anything.

crooked-v 5y ago

> and #5 is illegal Only if that's an attempt to evade legal requirements, rather than (for example) moving personal money out of accounts that the ex-spouse has access to.

jfrunyon 5y ago
You can "(for example)" move personal money out of accounts that the ex-spouse has access to without putting it in a safe deposit box.
- kbelder 5y ago
  Or, you can put it in a safe deposit box.
- crooked-v 5y ago
  That presumes other accounts or the ability to immediately open other accounts.

kook_throwaway 5y ago

2 and 3 absolutely can apply. Considering you get reported to the feds for transactions over $10,000 (or is it lower now?), it's completely reasonable for someone to decide it's not worth the risk and set the cash aside. As far as number 5, you can't assume that's illegal either. I have a family member who's ex wife continues to commit identity theft and cause headaches for him 5 years after the divorce is over.

jfrunyon 5y ago
> Considering you get reported to the feds for transactions over $10,000 (or is it lower now?), it's completely reasonable for someone to decide it's not worth the risk and set the cash aside. In that case, it would also be illegal. > As far as number 5, you can't assume that's illegal either. I have a family member [whose] ex wife continues to commit identity theft and cause headaches for him 5 years after the divorce is over. Okay? So he keeps his money in cash in a safe deposit box? Doubt.
- Zircom 5y ago
  >In that case, it would also be illegal. It'd only be illegal if they weren't paying taxes on it or otherwise not reporting it for other purposes. Having a giant pile of cash because I don't like my bank auto reporting my money in and of itself isn't evidence of anything.