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None of those are exclusive to America. Not even the first one. Get sick in Europe? Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of w

by bserge 5y ago

None of those are exclusive to America. Not even the first one. Get sick in Europe? Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. Just to get some dipshit who tells you to take a paracetamol and chill. Try to get a fucking job in Europe. No one is hiring because you're a tax burden. "But you're protected". Just not for the first 6 months. Or anytime they decide to fire you for bullshit reasons and you get told to move the fuck out of your decent apartment and drain your bank accounts if you want any benefits. Friends? Heh. Shows? Overpriced and garbage.

Doches 5y ago
> Get sick in Europe? Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. Live in France, _cannot confirm_.
- bserge 5y ago
  Well, let's hope one day you need an actual specialist.
- drstewart 5y ago
  >Live in France Live in America, _cannot confirm_ your little anecdote about all Americans assuming the worst. It's funny how Quail's front page seems to be filled with glowing reviews from cynical aggressive Americans but none from the cheery French. Weird.
yunohn 5y ago
> Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. Just to get some dipshit who tells you to take a paracetamol and chill. I live in the Netherlands, and this is the most frustrating thing about the healthcare system. I’ve had innumerable instances where the local GP recommends Paracetamol and my family doctor actually diagnoses the real problem. It’s a running joke in this country: https://amsterdamshallowman.com/2019/07/dutch-healthcare-paracetamol.html https://amsterdamshallowman.com/2019/07/dutch-healthcare-par...
- jacobsenscott 5y ago
  To be fair, medicine is most just theater making people feel cared for while their body heals itself. They could make the theater more elaborate and expensive, but to what end?
  - a1369209993 5y ago
    > To be fair, medicine is most just theater making people feel cared for while their body heals itself. I already take the placebo effect directly; if I'm going the trouble of dealing with your travesty of a medical system, it's because that wasn't sufficient.
  - yunohn 5y ago
    Maybe you misread my comment, but my point was that I’ve faced issues where without the non-placebo meds, my condition was not improving. I’m also curious why you think medicine is placebo theater. Surely, you aren’t invalidating the concept of modern healthcare?
pjerem 5y ago
On the health side, as someone with a chronic disease, I must say that I’m really grateful for the French healthcare system. I had a lot of quality care for basically zero euro. However I see it falling apart everywhere day after day with not any political will to stop this (and i can even feel the will to let it fall voluntarily). I know it’s still top notch compared to most of the world. But I’m so sad to see that governments of the last decades just didn’t care about fixing the issues while they were still manageable.
Talanes 5y ago
>Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. American healthcare is similar, except I have to pay $35 bucks up front just to talk to anyone, and can expect a couple hundred dollar bill to show up later if they actually do anything.
Dah00n 5y ago
Nothing in your post rings true to me in Denmark but even if it did it is not in any way comparable to the state the US is in.
pvaldes 5y ago
> Get sick in Europe? Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works... You are calling 'dipshits' to people that worked their asses to earn the right go be there. Six years of University, and then passing their Medical Internship Residency exams that typically takes another two or three to prepare, and then working other four years doing an internship, and then a few years more until earning a permanent place in another exam. Any physician working in public healthcare in Europe is extremely qualified for the job.

by bserge 5y ago

Doches 5y ago

> Get sick in Europe? Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. Live in France, _cannot confirm_.

bserge 5y ago
Well, let's hope one day you need an actual specialist.
drstewart 5y ago
>Live in France Live in America, _cannot confirm_ your little anecdote about all Americans assuming the worst. It's funny how Quail's front page seems to be filled with glowing reviews from cynical aggressive Americans but none from the cheery French. Weird.

yunohn 5y ago

> Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. Just to get some dipshit who tells you to take a paracetamol and chill. I live in the Netherlands, and this is the most frustrating thing about the healthcare system. I’ve had innumerable instances where the local GP recommends Paracetamol and my family doctor actually diagnoses the real problem. It’s a running joke in this country: https://amsterdamshallowman.com/2019/07/dutch-healthcare-paracetamol.html https://amsterdamshallowman.com/2019/07/dutch-healthcare-par...

jacobsenscott 5y ago
To be fair, medicine is most just theater making people feel cared for while their body heals itself. They could make the theater more elaborate and expensive, but to what end?
- a1369209993 5y ago
  > To be fair, medicine is most just theater making people feel cared for while their body heals itself. I already take the placebo effect directly; if I'm going the trouble of dealing with your travesty of a medical system, it's because that wasn't sufficient.
- yunohn 5y ago
  Maybe you misread my comment, but my point was that I’ve faced issues where without the non-placebo meds, my condition was not improving. I’m also curious why you think medicine is placebo theater. Surely, you aren’t invalidating the concept of modern healthcare?

pjerem 5y ago

On the health side, as someone with a chronic disease, I must say that I’m really grateful for the French healthcare system. I had a lot of quality care for basically zero euro. However I see it falling apart everywhere day after day with not any political will to stop this (and i can even feel the will to let it fall voluntarily). I know it’s still top notch compared to most of the world. But I’m so sad to see that governments of the last decades just didn’t care about fixing the issues while they were still manageable.

Talanes 5y ago

>Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works or you're gonna do a hell of a lot of waiting. American healthcare is similar, except I have to pay $35 bucks up front just to talk to anyone, and can expect a couple hundred dollar bill to show up later if they actually do anything.

Dah00n 5y ago

Nothing in your post rings true to me in Denmark but even if it did it is not in any way comparable to the state the US is in.

pvaldes 5y ago

> Get sick in Europe? Best hope overpriced Ibuprofen works... You are calling 'dipshits' to people that worked their asses to earn the right go be there. Six years of University, and then passing their Medical Internship Residency exams that typically takes another two or three to prepare, and then working other four years doing an internship, and then a few years more until earning a permanent place in another exam. Any physician working in public healthcare in Europe is extremely qualified for the job.